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McGregor in Stirling
« on: Tuesday 27 September 05 12:25 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

Yes I know that looking for a particular McGregor in Stirling is like looking for a needle in a haystack - but I seem to have hit something of a brick wall with my husband's Great Grandfather, Peter McGregor.

Given his age on his death certificate (from 1945) and in census records, he should have been born around 1863 to parents Peter McGregor and Catherine Ferguson.  And according to the census returns, he should have been born in Stirling.  However, I can't seem to track him down on scotlandspeople.

He married 3 times: Agnes Dunsmore in 1883, Elizabeth Robertson in 1899 and then Jane McLeod (nee Terris) - her second marriage.  Due to these multiple marriages there were quite a lot of children around so I guess I am hoping that someone else out there is tracing another branch of this tree that might be able to help me out.

Does any of this sound familiar to anyone?  I have some more info on the family, but don't really want to ramble on too much  Smiley

Cheers,
Clare
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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 September 05 21:25 BST (UK) »

HI

I have a note of a Peter Mcgregor Married on 13 Apr 1850 to an Catherine Ferguson But in Dumbarton. They had a son peter but in Anderson district of Glasgow on 2nd Feb 1856.

hope this helps !!

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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 September 05 08:52 BST (UK) »

Hi there,

I have seen the birth in 1856 on IGI, but am sceptical because it seems too early and it is in Glasgow.  But I did notice that the parents' names were correct.  His age appears pretty consistent in the census returns that I have for him (1891 and 1901), his death certificate and his marriage certificates, so I wonder how he could have been  7 years out.

It is a real puzzle for me, this one  Huh

Cheers,
Clare
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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 September 05 17:41 BST (UK) »

Hi Clare

In the 1871 Census for Peter Mcgregor there are only 2 for stirling in the age range 6 to 10.

1: Peter Mcgregor age 8 in district of Alva Stirlingshire

2: Peter Mcgregor age 6 of Stirling. This is the son of Peter and Elizabeth Mcgregor !!

There is a Peter Mcgregor age 6 in Dumbarton and 5 in Glasgow 2 age 9, 2 aged 7 and 1 aged 6.

Hope this helps

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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 October 05 20:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Clare,

1881 Cencus has this one:

Dwelling: Lower Redhall Farm Ho
Census Place: Gargunnock, Stirling, Scotland
Source:   FHL Film 0203541     GRO Ref    Volume 481-A    EnumDist 1    Page 5
   
Robert MAILER,    age 27, birthplace: Kilmadock, Perth, Scotland
Rel:   Head
Occ:   Farmer Of 123 Acrs Arable Employing 3 Men And 1 ((Girl)) Woman

Catherine Kinross Besse MAILER, age 21, birthplace: Kilmadock, Perth, Scotland
Rel:   Wife
Occ:   Farmers Wife

John MAILER, age  1 m, birthplace: Gargunnock, Stirling, Scotland
Rel:   Son

William MC PHERSON, age 20, birthplace: Hardhill, Linlithgow, Scotland
Rel:   Serv
Occ:   Farm Servt

Peter MC GREGOR, age 18, birthplace: Stirling, Stirling, Scotland
Rel:   Serv
Occ:   Farm Servt

Bridget O NEIL, age 21, birthplace: Raploch, Stirling, Scotland
Rel:   Serv
Occ:   General Servt (Domestic)

John MC LAREN, age 16, birthplace: Gargunnock, Stirling, Scotland
Rel:   Serv
Occ:   Farm Servt

Could this be your Peter?

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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 October 05 12:58 BST (UK) »

Hi there,

This looks promising, as he did agricultural work for most of his life as far as I am aware.  It backs up the born in 1863 in Stirling point, but I can't find his birth for then.  I am wondering if the census information is just inaccurate as maybe he didn't actually know where and when he was born.  I know I have the correct person on the 1891 and 1901 as I have his wives' names.  I think I am just getting myself more confused  Huh

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Clare
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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 November 05 15:40 GMT (UK) »

Hello from a Newbie.

Hope I'm not missing something here, as it's my first post and if I get it wrong I'll be so embarrassed!

My search on Scotlands People turns up a birth of a Peter McGregor in Stirling in 1864 - I've not looked at the entry, but could this be yours Clare.

Best of luck in your search - I also have McGregors in Stirlingshire, so vested interest here!   Wink

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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 November 05 15:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi there,

If it is the one for March 1864, then i have looked at it and it is the wrong parents on it, so I don't think it is the same person.  There is now some doubt in the family that he was actually born in the Stirling area, so I may have to widen my search a little.

What McGregor line are you researching?

Cheers,
Clare
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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 November 05 16:05 GMT (UK) »

Hello Clare

My McGregors start in Kinross and settle in the Denny/Kilsyth area.  Common male McGregor names for me are John, William, Robert and Thomas - no Peter so far.

I'll look out for Peter on my travels through SP and others!

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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 August 06 18:55 BST (UK) »

Peter MacGregor was born as Peter Ferguson on 22 November 1862 in St Ninians - his mother was Catherine Ferguson but I can find no evidence of her marriage to Peter MacGregor

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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 August 06 19:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Tony,

I have that certificate - and of all the ones for Peter McGregors that I have downloaded from SP it is my 'favourite' to be him.  However, now the family are saying that they are not sure he was actually born in Stirling, which is adding some confusion to my search.  Also, there is no mention of the McGregor name on the certificate, so I wonder why he would have changed it at some point  Huh  It is a bit of a puzzle.

Are you related to these McGregors or just a kind soul helping? Smiley

Cheers,
Clare
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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 August 06 19:12 BST (UK) »

Clare
I regret I am not related but have a fair bit on this family.
I am to be found in the white building across from the entrance to the Church of the Holy Rude in Stirling - I don't know where you are in Stirlingshire, but, if it is convenient, just call in - you are welcome to anything I have.

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Re: McGregor in Stirling
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 August 06 19:24 BST (UK) »

Hi Tony,

I'll drop you a PM

Cheers,
Clare
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