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criggy
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Hi Hoppity
If you give me more information I can check the 1851 census index for you at Luton Library. However they don't have a name index as such but come in about 32 separate booklets, parish by parish. The booklets themselves then have alphabetical lists so I would need to know where to search. If you have dates, places and they are within my area I may also be able to help you further ie mid or south Beds parish records. I will be going to Luton sometime this week.
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criggy
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All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Researching London: Crisp, Leahy, Lumley. Berks: Billington, Leahy, Newbury, Yorks: Naylor, Smith, Thackwray, Wilkinson, Lancs: Smith. Leics: Everitt, Marshall, Purcell, Lincs: Bullivant, Everitt, Johnson, Sargeant, Ward. Gloucs: Chard, Coopey, Cowley, Croome, May, Millman, Organ, Savage, Shearman. Ireland: Leahy (Killarny, Kilkenny, Kerry, Cork) |
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criggy
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Hi Hoppity
How do you know that William Mardell was actually born at Ayot & Sarah Anderson at Luton - was this info from the marriage entry or from later census info. Have you checked the census at Ayot for them?
I found a William Mardell c 27.1785 at St Marys Luton son of William & Ann (= Ann White 5.11.1772 Luton). Other siblings are Sarah c same date as William, Elizabeth c 1786 & Ann c 1775. (IGI) Could this William be yours perhaps?
There also seems to be two Sarah Andersons who may fit the bill. Sarah c 1789 by Elizabeth Anderson & Sarah c 1789 dau of John & Mary Anderson at Luton (IGI).
Another William (or the same one) = Elizabeth Desbury 1789 & c 3 children Mary 1795, Elizabeth 1792 & Sarah 1790. All on the IGI.
I don't know when I'll be going to Luton again I'm afraid as I don't tend to go very often. Unfortunately my local library doesn't cover Luton parish registers.
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criggy
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All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukResearching London: Crisp, Leahy, Lumley. Berks: Billington, Leahy, Newbury, Yorks: Naylor, Smith, Thackwray, Wilkinson, Lancs: Smith. Leics: Everitt, Marshall, Purcell, Lincs: Bullivant, Everitt, Johnson, Sargeant, Ward. Gloucs: Chard, Coopey, Cowley, Croome, May, Millman, Organ, Savage, Shearman. Ireland: Leahy (Killarny, Kilkenny, Kerry, Cork) |
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criggy
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Hi Hoppity
A few futher thoughts.
If all three census say he was born in Ayot then most probably he lived there round about the time of his birth or moved there shortly afterwards so that he thought he was born there. Of course it doesn't mean he was christened there or perhaps he was not christened at all in which case he would be difficult to trace.
I assume you have extracted all references to Mardells in the Ayot PR's especially deaths. Relatives may be named. It is not a common name so the other one at Luton could be linked. Luton is not very far from Ayot on the map. The Andersons may also have moved to Ayot as Sarah was married there. The bride usually (but not always) gets married in her home parish. Have you looked for Anderson deaths there? If her family were not there then they may had died before her marriage in which case she would either have been working there or perhaps was staying with relatives.
Have you tried wills? I was lucky in that a direct line ancestor of mine whose christening I couldn't find (although all the other siblings christenings were found) was named in his Uncle's will. In this case the enumerator must have forgotten to record the christening! This happened again in the next generation but I was lucky to get the birth certificate this time but his christening was missing again whereas his siblings were all recorded! They were both Williams too, so must be the name! 
Lastly - you did check the census for BOTH Ayot St Lawrence & Ayot St Peter didn't you?
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criggy
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« Last Edit: Monday 18 October 04 10:04 BST (UK) by criggy »
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All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukResearching London: Crisp, Leahy, Lumley. Berks: Billington, Leahy, Newbury, Yorks: Naylor, Smith, Thackwray, Wilkinson, Lancs: Smith. Leics: Everitt, Marshall, Purcell, Lincs: Bullivant, Everitt, Johnson, Sargeant, Ward. Gloucs: Chard, Coopey, Cowley, Croome, May, Millman, Organ, Savage, Shearman. Ireland: Leahy (Killarny, Kilkenny, Kerry, Cork) |
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Hoppity
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Hi Criggy!
Thank you for all your comments, they are much appreciated. Sometimes we get so deep into it, we cant see through the trees!!
I have looked at Wills but have found nothing. As far as deaths on the Ayot Parish Records, there are not many Mardells. I do know he died in 1861 Ayot St Peter, and I have found some of William and Sarah's children, but as there is no reference to William's christening, I cannot find his parents. I have looked at all the Parishes around the area to find a birth around 1787 but nothing has come to light as yet. He did have an Ann living with him on the 1841 Census - aged 80 years - not of Herts, but it didnt give a relation. This could have been his mother, aunt or whatever!! I have looked at all the earlier marriages with an Ann but can find no William that fits the bill. Maybe as you say, he just wasnt christened!!
From 1787 to his marriage in 1807, I can find nothing on him at all. It is so frustrating!!! I would so like to continue the tree!!
Thank you again for taking the time to help me.
Kind regards
Hoppity. 
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criggy
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1851 Census, Luton, Mardell/Mardle from the printed index.
HO/107/1757 LUTON 184 Folios 416-758
Population 10648
Sarah Mardell 33 bn Luton Folio 666
Emma Mardell 11 bn Luton 666
Eliza Mardell 7 bn Luton 666
Elizabeth Mardell 25 bn Luton 669
Harriet Mardle 21 bn Luton 687
Emma Mardle 53 bn Luton 693
Jane Mardle 68 bn Hertfordshire 741
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criggy
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All census lookups are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukResearching London: Crisp, Leahy, Lumley. Berks: Billington, Leahy, Newbury, Yorks: Naylor, Smith, Thackwray, Wilkinson, Lancs: Smith. Leics: Everitt, Marshall, Purcell, Lincs: Bullivant, Everitt, Johnson, Sargeant, Ward. Gloucs: Chard, Coopey, Cowley, Croome, May, Millman, Organ, Savage, Shearman. Ireland: Leahy (Killarny, Kilkenny, Kerry, Cork) |
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criggy
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Hi Hoppity
Here are the Andersons. (Index only I'm afraid) Might still be a relative there, you never know. You should be able to check some against the IGI.
1851 Census Index from the Luton printed booklet.
ANDERSON
HO/107/1757 Luton 184 folios 416-758 (Note: same ref no. means on the same same page, not necessarily at same address)
Name, Age, Birthplace, Folio no.
Mary 82 LUT 427
John 27 LUT 508
Sarah 25 GRA 508 (Gravenhurst)
William 6 LUT 508
John 10m LUT 508
Frederick 2 LUT 508
Ann 70 LEA 539 (Leagrave)
Mary 36 LUT 539
Susan 25 LUT 539
Emma 18 Brk 619
William 45 Hrt 622
Mary 39 Ssx 622
Thomas 2 LUT 622
Thomas 50 LUT 625
Sarah 47 Bkm 625
James16 HOU 625 (Houghton)
Mary Ann 9 LUT 625
Eliza 21 LUT 642
Ann 22 Hrt 648
Alfred 1 Hrt 648
Mary 58 LUT 655
Reuben 25 LUT 655
Maria 20 LUT 655
Henry 19 LUT 655
Elizabeth 60 LUT 660
Rose 78 LUT 661
Elizabeth 12 Sry 662
Elizabeth 75 LUT 733
Mary A 40 BTN 733 (Barton)
James 39 LUT 733
Amos 15 LUT 733
Maria 12 LUT 733
Martha 10 LUT 733
Thomas 8 LUT 733
Susan 6 LUT 733
Sarah 4 LUT 733
Heni (F) 5m LUT 733
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criggy
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