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Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« on: Thursday 29 September 05 07:02 BST (UK) »

Hi,
I am needing help to locate the deaths of my 2 GG Grandparents which I believe occurred in Victoria.

They were both convicts Charles Simpson (bootmaker)b.1821 Perth, Scotland and Hannah Wilson b.1827 place unknown.

They married 21/12/1846 Launceston Tasmania.
Their children are Henry Simpson 1847-1847
Hannah 1849-1878 she married William Thatcher in Victoria 1869
Charles James Simpson b.3/7/1851 Launceston, married twice 1871 & 1892 (fathered 15 children) and died Richmond, Victoria 22/5/1920
According to Charles James Simpson's death certificate he came to live in Victoria  about 1859, as it states he resided 8yrs Tasmania, 60 yrs in Victoria.

Any help with locating Charles and Hannah Simpson's deaths or arrival info to Victoria from Tasmania about 1859 would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 September 05 07:30 BST (UK) »

G'day dusty,
Have you looked at http://www.blaxland.com/ozships and http://www.genseek.net/pass1.htm?
You  might find them listed there - these are submitted records.

There are also the official repositories:
http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/genealres/default.htm
http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/pathways/pathway4/pathway4.jsp
(click on "Immigration and Multicultural Affairs")

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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 September 05 09:03 BST (UK) »

Hi dusty

This is a possible for Charles

Charles SIMPSON died 1855 Victoria aged 33 Ref: 6144

Hannah Thatcher's death certificate may give a better indication of length of time in Victoria as she died early.

Do you have Charles J Simpson's marriage certificates, they normally indicate whether parents are deceased.

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Surnames:
Armstrong, Gray, Greco, Lambden, Le Busque, Beaton, Carron, Pitt, Gould
Areas:
Victoria, Tasmania, Hampshire, Berkshire, Yorkshire, Fermanagh, Glamorgan
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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 September 05 09:29 BST (UK) »

There is  a death for Hannah Simpson on the AVRI

1855 Victoria parents Robert and Ann Graham - no age given.

There is also a Charles born in Scotland - died 1872 aged 60 - parents John and Elizabeth Somerville



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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 September 05 09:38 BST (UK) »

Trish

Unfortunately that Hannah was only 9mths old when she died.

There is a marriage for a Hannah SIMPSON marrying David PILE in 1861.
She died in 1897 aged 59 Parents given as John TAYLOR and Hannah DANIELS. Age is out by 10 years

Will say David PILE's first wife was Elizabeth JENNINGS according to the children's births.  But when she died her father was given as Dennis THATCHER.


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Surnames:
Armstrong, Gray, Greco, Lambden, Le Busque, Beaton, Carron, Pitt, Gould
Areas:
Victoria, Tasmania, Hampshire, Berkshire, Yorkshire, Fermanagh, Glamorgan
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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 September 05 10:46 BST (UK) »

Trish

Unfortunately that Hannah was only 9mths old when she died.


Hi Genni
That ruins that one

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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 September 05 11:46 BST (UK) »

Hi dusty

Appears to be another son Charles & Hannah - John SIMPSON born Hobart 1855.

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Genni
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Surnames:
Armstrong, Gray, Greco, Lambden, Le Busque, Beaton, Carron, Pitt, Gould
Areas:
Victoria, Tasmania, Hampshire, Berkshire, Yorkshire, Fermanagh, Glamorgan
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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 September 05 16:34 BST (UK) »

Hi Dusty, this may be the Hannah Thatcher you are looking for.
Cheers
Anne in OZ

Surname: THATCHER
Given Names: Hannah
Event: D
Spouse Surname/Father: Simpson Charle
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Hannah WILTON
Age: 29
Sex:
Birth Place: LAUN
Death Place:
Year: 1878
Reg Number: 6827
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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 September 05 16:48 BST (UK) »

Don't know if you would already have this but there is a convict permission to marry listing for November 1846. Charles Simpson ship DUNCAN and Hannah Wilson ship EMMA EUGENIA.

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Re: Help needed - Simpson's - Victoria/Tasmania
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 September 05 00:33 BST (UK) »

Thanks Anne, I do have the permission to marry info and their marriage certificate.
Still puzzled how the family came to Victoria about 1859 as the children would have only been 8 and 10 yrs old.  Have not been able to find any death info for either parent. Charles marriage cert in 1871 does not say they are deceased and his sister, then Hannah Thatcher is a witness.
May have to purchase sister Hannah's marriage cert in 1869 in the hope of getting some more clues.

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