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giuliana
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Re: Rathdrum Workhouse 1840's
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 23 August 09 14:08 UTC (UK) »
I too am researching famine orphan girls from Rathdrum Workhouse. Sisters Bridget and Mary Moore (daughters of John and Honor, both deceased) came to Australia on the 'William and Mary', arriving 21 Nov 1849. Bridget, who married William Phillips in Jan 1851, was my great-great-grandmother.

I have not been able to find out anything about any of the family other than what is available via 'Barefoot and Pregnant?' Vol 2 and the Famine Orphan Memorial website. Any additional suggestions/tips/info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Giuliana in Australia
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Re: Rathdrum Workhouse 1840's
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 August 09 14:33 UTC (UK) »
not sure if the years fit - but there are a few possible matches for baptisms around the 1830s for Bridget Moore with a fathers name of John on the Irish Family History Foundation website at www.irish-roots.ie  - there are 8 in total between 1829 and 1856

The IFHF only hold RC baptism records for Co. Wicklow at the moment and the details are in the form of transcripts which cost €5 each to view.

None seem to be in the Rathdrum parish


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giuliana
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Re: Rathdrum Workhouse 1840's
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 23 August 09 14:38 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for that prompt reply - as you were replying, I was "signing up" to search the IFHF site for Armagh (different part of family) as I couldn't see anything for Wicklow. I'll look more carefully when it's not 12.30am...

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Re: Rathdrum Workhouse 1840's
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 23 August 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »
1.20am or not, I think I may have found my Bridget - if Glendalough can be equated with Sevenchurches (and if there are not too many John/Honor combinations...)

Father:   John Moore   Mother:   Honor Bynre

Do you think the Bynre is a typo for Byrne?

I guess I could spend another 5 Euros (min.) and see if I can find the same parent combination for a Mary b abt 1831 in Glendalough.

Thanks for the great tip!

Giuliana
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Re: Rathdrum Workhouse 1840's
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 23 August 09 16:13 UTC (UK) »
2.00am update (and 20 Euros later...)

On searching all the Moores born Glendalough 1823-1838 with a father named John, I eliminated all but 4:
Bridget b 1829 - mother Honor Bynre (Byrne?)
Mary b 1831 - mother Honour Moore
Thomas b 1833 - mother Margaret Fraughin
Andrew b 1834 - mother Margret Fraughin

Given that I'm looking for Bridget b 1829 Sevenchurches and Mary born 1831 Sevenchurches, with parents John and Honor, it seems reasonable to conclude that I've found the right family and that there were probably no other children.

Should I be concerned that Honor/Honour is shown as Bynre in 1829 and as Moore in 1831? Is it reasonable to conclude that John and Honor were not married at the time of Bridget's birth but married before Mary's birth?

Any help appreciated!

Giuliana
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Re: Rathdrum Workhouse 1840's
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 23 August 09 16:14 UTC (UK) »
I'd never heard of Sevenchurches before, even though I must have passed through it!  according to google maps it is about .5 km from Glengalough - see : http://www.rootschat.com/links/06y6/
Rathdrum town is about 12 km south.

I'd be pretty sure that the 'Bynre' entry is just a typo for Byrne



Shane
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giuliana
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Re: Rathdrum Workhouse 1840's
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 23 August 09 16:20 UTC (UK) »
Yeehaw! After 12 months of brick wall, I think I've just climbed over, with your invaluable help. Thank you SO much!
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