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JEANP
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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 07 October 06 18:00 UTC (UK) »

Joxer42,

Sorry there are no Freeman graves in Benholm

Jean
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Ogilvie/Ogilvy                 Lee
Mitchell                           Gwynne
Davidson                        Evans
Eggie                              Felvus
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 08 October 06 16:37 UTC (UK) »

My local library has a copy of the Benholm OPR which records the baptisms, marriages and deaths (or rather the hire of the mortcloth used to cover the coffin).  The latter covers the period 1718-1843 but there is no indication of relationships, just the names of the deceased.
I can do a lookup for anyone who thinks that their forebear/s may be buried in the kirkyard.  There might be gaps in the record.

Bervonian.

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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 21 January 07 21:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have an ancestor who was a coastguard in Johnshaven and died in 1857 and was buried in Benholm Churchyard, his name was William Perrott Thompson.  My cousin from Aberdeen tried to find Thompson graves a couple of years and said she could only see one but there was one flat on the ground and she thought it had W.P. on it but couldnt read it, have you seen this stone on your travels

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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 21 January 07 21:13 UTC (UK) »

 I have just seen your posting about the Mitchell connection with your family, William Perrott married an Anne Mitchell in St Bees Cumbria in 1810, she was the daughter of Alexander Mitchell and Ann Annerdale.
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 23 January 07 13:03 UTC (UK) »

There are a couple of Thomson graves on the plan, Ill take a look and get back to you.

My Mitchell ancestor yes just the one (I've not found her parents) is my GGG grandmother Elspet Mitchell b Kirriemuir c1780 married Aexander Ogilvie b c1777 Kirriemuir.

Jean
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Researching my family in and around Kirriemuir, Angus and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

Ogilvie/Ogilvy                 Lee
Mitchell                           Gwynne
Davidson                        Evans
Eggie                              Felvus
Leighton                         Rowley
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 23 January 07 18:51 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks Jean, I look forward to hearing your reply, fingers crossed one of them is his, I have a photo of a standing stone for Thompson but that one is not ours.

If you find any more about your Mitchells you could let me know.

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JEANP
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 28 January 07 14:27 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

I didn't have to check the stones out as it happened as both the thomson graves are pre 1855 and listed in the index.

Ths standing one that you have is probably Margaret Thomson d. 23.04 1902 aged 83, wife of Robert Gove.

The other is a seventeenth century flat stone.

The plan I have is dated 1892 and shows all the plots and if there are markers or not.  If your ancestor was buried in Benholm then he didn't have a stone and unfortunately the plots without stones are not named.

Sorry to have been of no help.

Jean Cry
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Researching my family in and around Kirriemuir, Angus and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

Ogilvie/Ogilvy                 Lee
Mitchell                           Gwynne
Davidson                        Evans
Eggie                              Felvus
Leighton                         Rowley
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #37 on: Friday 02 February 07 23:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jean

Many thanks for having a look for me, you have been a great help at least I now know it is not worth coming up to Scotland to see his grave as there is no stone to see.

I would still like to see Benholm and Johnshaven one day just to see where they lived.


Thank you again

Margery

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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 03 February 07 16:31 UTC (UK) »

Margery,

I'm a bit surprised that being the coastguard that he didn't have a stone and wonder whether he could have been buried in the new cemetery in Johnshaven. I'm not sure when the first burials took place there, but there are some stones with dates earlier than 1892 when I presume burials stopped in Benholm.

How do you know he was buried in Benholm?

Jean Huh
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Researching my family in and around Kirriemuir, Angus and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

Ogilvie/Ogilvy                 Lee
Mitchell                           Gwynne
Davidson                        Evans
Eggie                              Felvus
Leighton                         Rowley
Craig
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 03 February 07 21:50 UTC (UK) »

Jean

I have just received a copy of his death certificate on which it says Burial Place, Undertaker or other person by whom certified;

Churchyard of Benholm  As certified by James Donaldson - undertaker.  He died on 10th March 1857 at 9.55.a.m. Back Street, Johnshaven aged 73 years 9 months.

Margery
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 04 February 07 15:26 UTC (UK) »

Hello again Marjery,

As I have been recording the graves on the plan, it has become apparent that the surnames on the plan refer to the person who bought the plot. More often than not this matches the surname of the deceased, but not always. So I'm wondering if the plot was bought by his wife, in Scotland it's common on grave stones to find women named by their maiden name or by his daughter (if he has one) using a married name?

I would have though that when his wife died that she would have been buried in the same grave. Did he have a wife? If so what was her maiden name?

Jean.

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CENSUS INFORMATION IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM
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Researching my family in and around Kirriemuir, Angus and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.

Ogilvie/Ogilvy                 Lee
Mitchell                           Gwynne
Davidson                        Evans
Eggie                              Felvus
Leighton                         Rowley
Craig
Whyayacca
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 22:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jean

William Perrot Thompson was married to Ann Mitchell the daughter of Alexander Mitchell and Ann Innerdale or Ennerdale, he had one daughter living in Johnshaven when he died and she was called Mary Ann Clark, she also died in Back Street Johnshaven, but I dont know if it was the family home she inherited or not.  I have not to date found the death for Ann Mitchell.

Margery
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 08 February 07 10:09 UTC (UK) »

On the ScotlandsPeople index I found the deaths of 2 persons called Ann Thomson or Mitchell (note the alternative spelling of Thompson).  1 in 1921 at St Cyrus and 1 at Banchory Devenick.
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 08 February 07 10:12 UTC (UK) »

On the ScotlandsPeople index I found the deaths of 2 persons called Ann Thomson or Mitchell (note the alternative spelling of Thompson).  1 in 1921 at St Cyrus and 1 at Banchory Devenick in 1928.
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Re: Benholm Kirkyard
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 08 February 07 10:48 UTC (UK) »


I dont think either of these are her as they had several more children after this time, up to 1830, it is possible the spelling is Thomson as while they were living in Scotland that is how it was spelt but when they were in England the p was added.  We are as family  in posession of the family bible albeit that it is in Canada now, but I have seen it and copied out the text.

Many thanks for looking for me
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