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sjm21560
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Hi Jean, I'm trying to obtain some information on my ancestors from Johnshaven.
My 3rd great grandfather, James Douglas, died 5 Jul 1884 at Johnshaven. His wife, Mary Hay, died 11 Jul 1887, at Johnshaven. I have census data on the family from 1841 to 1881.
James's parents were John Douglas & Margaret Scott but I know nothing about them.
Mary's parents were David Hay & Margaret Davidson. David was born in Benholm parish about 1760. There is a Benholm parish mortcloth record for a David Hay dated 29 Jan 1826. I think that it could possibly be him. Margaret was born abt 1770 at St. Cyrus.
I would be very greatful for any monument inscription information for James Douglas and Mary Hay, and any information at all on either sets of parents.
Kind Regards
Stewart
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AYRSHIRE: Miller, McEwen.
GLASGOW: Miller, Ahara, McRae, McDonald.
HAWICK: Davidson, Scott, McEwen, Spalding, Hogg, Grierson, Stewart, Miller, Hilson, Pringle.
ISLAY: Brown, McLean, McDougall, Currie.
KINCARDINE: Hay, Davidson, Douglas, Scott, Welch, Rae, Watson, Croll.
PERTH: Downie, McDonald, McLagan.
RENFREWSHIRE: Ahara
DEVONPORT: Abbott, Hawton, Stevens.
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JEANP
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Hi Stewart,
I've not come across a stone for James Douglas and Mary Hay yet, they could be buried in Johnshaven.
You may have this already, but here is the pre 1855 gravestone inscription for Margaret Davidson:
By David Hay imo w Ann Greig 25.9.1793 59, 2w Margt Davidson 23.3.1823 54, (her two eldest ss John & Davdison both d childhood, also his two youngest Isobell & Alexander both d inf.
David Hay would have died the following year if that mortcloth entry was for him, but there's no mention of him on the stone.
I also found this, I think it must be connected.
IN MEMORY OF
ROBERT GREIG WELCH WHO DIED JUNE 30 1893
SON OF DAVID WELCH AND ANN HAY WELCH, JOHNSHAVEN
ALSO OF HIS SONS DAVID 1915 & JAMES DOUGLAS 1916
Jean
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Researching my family in and around Kirriemuir, Angus and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.
Ogilvie/Ogilvy Lee
Mitchell Gwynne
Davidson Evans
Eggie Felvus
Leighton Rowley
Craig
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sjm21560
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Hi Jean, many many thanks for the information on Margaret Davidson - I hadn't come across it before. The children's names confirm that it is indeed my ancestral lineage. 
The name "Welch" or occasionally "Welsh" appears quite frequently as a middle name in this particular lineage. I'm in the process of trying to discover its derivation and I've made a couple of links recently. Ann Hay, the sister of "my Mary Hay", and daughter of David Hay & Margaret Davidson married David Welch 31 Jul 1820. Their eldest child was Robert Greig Welch b. 29 Sep 1840. I think that you've definitely found his MI, so many thanks again!
I wonder if I could possibly trouble you some more, this time on an associated lineage. My 3rd great grandfather was James Rae. I have a document that states he was a forrester at Denhead of Balhaggerty in Dec 1842. I think he died before the 1851 census. He was born abt 1791 in Benholm parish, possibly Garvock. I don't know anything about James's parents.
James Rae's second wife was Isobel Watson, b. abt 1799 at St Cyrus and died at Braehead, Johnshaven 2 Sep 1889. Her parents were John Watson & Mary Croll. John was born abt 1758 and Mary abt 1762 both in Benholm parish. I think John died before the 1841 census. Mary appears in the 1841 census living with James & Isobel at Denhead in the civil parish of Garvock, but not in the 1851 census.
Again, any information on the above would be greatfully received.
Many thanks once again
Stewart
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AYRSHIRE: Miller, McEwen.
GLASGOW: Miller, Ahara, McRae, McDonald.
HAWICK: Davidson, Scott, McEwen, Spalding, Hogg, Grierson, Stewart, Miller, Hilson, Pringle.
ISLAY: Brown, McLean, McDougall, Currie.
KINCARDINE: Hay, Davidson, Douglas, Scott, Welch, Rae, Watson, Croll.
PERTH: Downie, McDonald, McLagan.
RENFREWSHIRE: Ahara
DEVONPORT: Abbott, Hawton, Stevens.
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sjm21560
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Jean, many thanks for looking.
Much appreciated
Stewart
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AYRSHIRE: Miller, McEwen.
GLASGOW: Miller, Ahara, McRae, McDonald.
HAWICK: Davidson, Scott, McEwen, Spalding, Hogg, Grierson, Stewart, Miller, Hilson, Pringle.
ISLAY: Brown, McLean, McDougall, Currie.
KINCARDINE: Hay, Davidson, Douglas, Scott, Welch, Rae, Watson, Croll.
PERTH: Downie, McDonald, McLagan.
RENFREWSHIRE: Ahara
DEVONPORT: Abbott, Hawton, Stevens.
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Davmil
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Hello Jean,
Thank you for your prompt reply to my query.
My 5 x great grandfather George Milne was born 1701 and was a servant at the Mill of Garvock until he took over the tenancy, which the family held until 1839 when his grandson John Milne died.
George died 6 Nov 1771 & was buried at Benholm, along with his third wife, Ann who died in Dec 1777 and one of his sons, Alexander who died in 1780.
George married 1. Isabel Young 25 Jul 1726 at Garvock- 10 children
married 2. Ann Ballow 29 Dec 1744 Garvock, one dtr Jean and 3. Ann Milne 9 Mar 1759 at Benholm- no issue.
I have the names of the 10 children, some of whom would also have been buried at Benholm, if you need them.
Regards
David Milne
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Davmil
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Hello Jean,
Thanks so much for helping.
George's children by his first wife Isabel Young are as follows
James bapt 1732
David " 1734
George " 1741
William " 1742
There were 4 other children- another George 1729 & a William 1739, who must have died young and then Alexander 1744 who was buried with his father 1780 at Benholm & John born 1743 who died at Johnshaven in 1818. He took of the lease of the Mill of Garvock as did his son Jon.
George's first wife Isabel died about 1744 when George remarried Ann Ballow.
My wife and I visited Benholm Church in September last year- a delightful church- but found most of the headstones so hard to read.
Kind regards
David
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JEANP
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David, there are no gravestones for the ones you mention, but there are 2 more Milne gravestones beside George Milne, so I think there is probably a family connection.
These are the transcriptions from the pre 1855 gravestone index.
1820. GM. AG. by Geo Milne at Mill of Kair imo w Ann Garvie 26.3.1820 40. Geo Milne fr Mill of Kair 19.7.1845 72, yt s Thos. d Crieff 10.10.1846 28 int there, yt da Ann d Montrose 27.11.1902 87.
by Jas Falconer, Hair-Muir of Benholm d 13.8.1883 imo da Annabella 14.1.1857 16, w Jean Milne 28.5.1871 63. ********
*****This stone is beside George Milne and the other is beside Jean Milne.
Jean
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Researching my family in and around Kirriemuir, Angus and Rotherham, South Yorkshire.
Ogilvie/Ogilvy Lee
Mitchell Gwynne
Davidson Evans
Eggie Felvus
Leighton Rowley
Craig
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Davmil
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Hello Jean,
You are a sweetie.
You are right about the family connection, and I know who the other Milnes are who you refer to.
You live in a lovely part of Scotland and I have a great empathy with my forebears from Kincardineshire.
My ggg grandfather, David Milne with his brother George, went from Johnshaven to London in 1783, as merchants and both became Lloyd's underwriters.
One of David's sons emigrated to Australia in 1818 for the free land then on offer and here we are after nearly 200 years.
Thank you once again.
Regards David
ps. Joann & Douglas Beattie of Johnshaven are related to me
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