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Topic: McLure - Sleat, Skye (Read 11340 times)
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McVitie
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Hello Debbie,
My dad was born in Skye, in 1931 and his folks all lived in Ardvasar Village/Calligarry, Sleat,.going back 200 years previous. My dad is Alexander Kennedy, his dad was Malcolm and his Grandad was also Alexander, who was a Merchant in Ardvasar, and owned the village shop. I recall that my dad said the Kennedys married into the MacLures
(and MacIntyres/Macleans/Macdonalds!) and I regularly visit Skye and stay at Janet MacLure's cottage in Calligarry.
I've managed to trace back the Kennedy's to around 1850's when my Gt Grandad Alexander was born, and he had 10 children, the last of whom, my Gt Aunt Isobel, still lives in sheltered accommodation in Broadford, Skye. I've more or less hit a brick wall, as regards going back beyond 1850, and if you have any info in your possession that may shed any further light, I would be most grateful.
Kind regards
McVitie
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Debbie in B.C.
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Gretta Coyle 1924 - 2004
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Hi there McVitie,
I have a few Kennedy's in the file, the ones with a McLure connection are as follows - Archie Kennedy born 1817 married Christina McInnes, and his father - also Archie Kennedy born 1780's, married Morgach McLure.
I don't have a Malcolm on file. However, you should be able to get back to the early 1800's with the Sleat PR's. They start in abt. 1816. The 1841census for Ardvasar is on line at -
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~relys4u/
Do you have the parents of your Great Grandad Alexander? Or any of the wives names that married into the family?
I have a pretty big database of the Sleat families, and I would be happy to check any of your other names.
I haven't met Janet MacLure, I know her son David. We met the last time Chris & I were over there for a holiday. We stayed at Homeleigh (post office) in Ardvasar, and had a fabulous holiday.
Deb
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McVitie
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Hello Debbie,
Thanks for the extra info - I will having a look through this a bit later today - I'm making the most of father's day!!!!
Kind regards
McV
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Kylie B
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Hi there,
My lot are all from the Sleat and Sasaig areas of Skye - family names of McGillivray, Matheson, Nicolson and Robertson.
I do have an Angus McGillivray who married a Mary McLure in about 1819, and she then died sometime before 1825, when Angus remarried. They were living in Druiforn Sleat.
Does this ring any bells - would love any info you might have connecting with these families!!
Thanks then!
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Debbie in B.C.
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Gretta Coyle 1924 - 2004
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I do have an Angus McGillivray who married a Mary McLure in about 1819, and she then died sometime before 1825, when Angus remarried. They were living in Druiforn Sleat.
Hi Kylie B,
I don't have your Mary McLure's marriage to Angus McGillivray.
Who did Angus re-marry after the death of Mary?
It's a shame that Mary died so early! No way to find her parents without a death cert., and I have no info from the PR on her birth circa 1800.
Were there any children from the marriage of Angus and Mary?
I have an Angus McGillivray in the file, married to Margaret Campbell - they were also from Drumfearn. They had at least 2 children, - Christy born abt. 1824 - married Charles McLure
and Donald, born abt. 1827, married Peggy Robertson.
Deb
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Kylie B
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Hi Deb,
I am just in the process of moving house, so don't have everything with me, but interestingly I have
Angus McGillivray marrying a Helen MacDonald c.1825, after Mary McLure's death....
The children from marriage with Mary were I think John and Christy, and then there was a Donald and Margaret born of the marriage to Helen.
And I do have that Christy marrying Charles McLure, and Donald marrying Peggy Robertson!!
Where did you find the marriage to Margaret Campbell? It is so difficult connecting records in Skye because there are so many families with the same names and ages!
Let me know, and I will look up my stuff properly and get in touch again soon!
Cheers
Kylie
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Debbie in B.C.
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Gretta Coyle 1924 - 2004
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Hi Kylie,
Actually, looking over the sources for this family, there are a couple of discrepancies!
I got the Angus MacGillivray/Marg. Campbell marriage info from a transcript of Daughter Christy's death cert, dated July 9, 1888 at Drumfearn.
But also in my notes is this:
(Notes from Catherine King, copied from the Register at Portree Library.)
Christina McClure, died 9/6/1888, at Drumfearn, aged 66 years, w. of Charles McClure (crofter), f: Angus McGillivray, crofter, m: Margaret McClure.
"It is not clear whether Christy's Mother was Margaret Campbell (from transcription of death certificate) or Margaret McClure from the above transcription. Also, there is a discrepancy on the date of death - June or July of 1888."
There is a possibility that the info on the death cert is incorrect, I haven't seen the original, but the transcript notes that the informant was Christy's Brother - Donald.
Did you get the details of Angus' first marriage to Mary McLure from his death cert? When your move is over with, I sure would be interested in getting more details from you.
It would appear that these families are one and the same, and that the info regarding Margaret Campbell as being the Mother was not right!
Here is the family of Angus & Helen from the 1841 - all listed under MacGillivray.
Angus 50 Aglab
Helen 35
John 20 boatbuilders app
Christy 15
Donald 13
Mgt 11
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Kylie B
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Hi Debbie,
This lot are a confusing bunch arn't they!!
OK - On John McG's death certificate in Aust, his parents are listed as Angus McG and Margaret Campbell (informant was his wife Ann Grant). So this would seem to match the info on Christy McClure's death certificate too.....
According to Roy McG (clan researcher) and Clan Donald records, Angus married Helen MacDonald (died circa1819) and then remarried to Mary MacLure.....and this is obviously wrong as Helen was alive and well on the 1841 census!!
Maybe Angus married all 3?? Or perhaps Margaret Campbell was indeed his first wife, and Helen his second, and Mary/Margaret MacLure was in fact Charles MacLure's mother??
???I'm not at all sure where to go from here to clarify this one - any ideas?? Would that info even be on Angus's death certificate? 
Let me know what you think - determined to sort this lot out!! I love a challenge....luckily 
Kylie
PS I have been told that it was not uncommon to shorten just about any name starting with M to Mary at that time....just to add further complication!!
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Debbie in B.C.
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yes, they are a confusing bunch!
I see on familysearch.org John McG's birth is given as abt. 1819, Sleat, and his marriage to Ann Grant is recorded as Feb. 13, 1846, which would put John age 27.
Both entries are Patron submissions, as opposed to transcripts from the Sleat PR's.
John is the eldest boy on the 1841 census, at age 20, so it would appear that at least John, and Christy were the children of Angus McG and Margaret Campbell.
The two younger siblings - Donald (age 13 in 1841) and Margaret (age 11 in 1841) could have been the children of Helen McDonald if her and Angus McG were married in 1825?
I don't have anything further on Margaret, but I know that Donald MacG married Peggy Robertson, Jan 31 1860 at Sleat, again from familysearch.org, (a transcript from the civil register.) I haven't seen the certificate.
It just might give a history of the many wives of Angus McG on his death certificate. Do we know if he died in Scotland? Or did the family all go to Australia?
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Kylie B
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Hi debbie -
Great to hear from you!
My email address is :
nato_kyles@yahoo.com.au
Will look forward to hearing from you
Kylie
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McVitie
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Hi Debbie,
Since my first reply to you in your post, I found out that my Gt Grandfather, Alexander Kennedy, was born in Sleat in 1855, and whose parents were Donald Kennedy and Mary Maclure.
I don't as yet have any further details of their marriage or birth dates but thought there may well be a connection to your side of the Maclure tree - who knows!
Kind regards
McVitie
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