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Topic: Link: Northamtonshire Regiments. (Read 3794 times)
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forester
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I've just looked at Alan's introduction and see that it was drawn up at the beginning of 1916, which convinces me that Answer 2 is probably closer to the mark.
I wonder if there was an element of "name and shame" involved, especially as some of the names are clearly denoted as exempt, or subsequently joined up.
Phil
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seahall
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Evening Phil. 
It seems as though you may be getting closer to the truth.
Thank you for your input.
It is much appreciated.
Sandy
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northants1841
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Thanks for the link, it does look like these group numbers maybe Derby scheme groups. I have checked the two entries outside of this range of numbers to make sure that they are not typos. I've copied the images below, perhaps they were entered in error on the Roll?
Alan
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See http://www.northants-familytree.netCLARKE - Rushden, ROSE - Northampton/Middleton Cheney, PERRIN - Rushden/Northampton, LANHAM - Northampton/Suffolk, COLES/HOWE - Northampton/Wellingborough, LYMAN - Northampton, NIGHTINGALE - Eastcote/Pattishall, MORING - Northampton, WILLMOTT - Northampton/Luddington, RUSSELL - Newnham, ALLEN - Harlestone, BONHAM - Bugbrooke/Potterspury, BIGNELL - Paulerspury, HAWKES - Northampton/Chesham, INWOOD - Northampton, GARDNER - Pattishall |
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seahall
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Thank you Alan for yet another brilliant resource for Northamptonshire Folk and others.
Phil it is looking more likely your theory was correct on them being Derby Scheme Groups. 
Sandy
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forester
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Hello Alan and Sandy,
You are right, the 74/77 Groups etc are not typos.
I had a quick look at the 1901 and 1911 index and can't see an Arthur Warrilow in Northants. They seem to be clustered around Stone, Staffs.
They must have some significance. It's a pity there are no qualifying remarks in the last column.
Phil
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seahall
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Hi Phil.
On my Registers of Electors for 1901 Northampton Town
there is a William Warrilow at 13 Pine St.
Sandy
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forester
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I've just tried him as well....not there. 
There are no Warrilows at all coming up for Northants in 1901 or 1911 in any of the searches I've tried.
What am I doing wrong
It does exist, does it?
Phil
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seahall
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Phil
The name is on my datatbase although the family is not
living a 13 Pine Street in 1901. They are not at 2 Elm Street either.
If he is on the list for Northampton Borough then he must have
been living in the Town surely.
Does he exist.
Sandy
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forester
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It appears to be the usual spelling (or transcribing) problem.
I have now found one WARRILLOW in 1911 in Northampton; probably your William (born 1864).
I've had a look on FreeBMD and there are no entries for an Arthur in the whole county from 1880 onwards, so the one on the Roll is possibly not a local.
Phil
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seahall
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Okay not sure where this is leading, yet intriguing me.
On freebmd there is a marriage of a William Bowden Warrilow
to a Alice Hives in Jun Qtr 1892 Northampton.
William is from Stone in Staffs.
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seahall
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On the 1901 Census they are noted as being in
Rg13/1425 District 47 Pg 6 Folio 82 Sch 35
Hse No. 32 Althorpe Street, Northampton
William Warriloe Head M 37 Shoemkaer Staffs Stone
Alice Wife M 29 Bucks Lavendon
Albert Arthur Hives Nephew 4 London Chalk Farm
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seahall
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Then on the 1911 census.
Rg14 ? 2 Elm Street, Northampton
William Warrillow Head Widower M 47 Shoe Maker Stone Staffs
Sarah Jane Ives Single f 49 Domestice Servant Lavendon
Bucks.
Albert Arthur Ives Nephew M 14 Errand Boy Dulwich South East
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seahall
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Then on freebmd there is a marriage
Dec Qtr 1915 Northampton
Sarah J Hives to William Warrillow
So as Arthur Warrilow is listed at 2 Elm Street on the above Roll of Honour
he obviously took William's surname and dropped the Albert.
Moral of story nothing is as it first seems.
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seahall
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As the entry for birth for Albert is.
On freebmd Albert Arthur Ives Jun Qtr 1887 Camberwell
I wonder what his service record/medal card if ones still exists will be under.
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northants1841
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Hello Phil & Sandy,
Thanks, I've spoken with the military expert at NRO and he also thinks that it is the Derby Scheme,
just can't fit the 74/77 groups into the Scheme.
Alan
Hello Alan and Sandy,
You are right, the 74/77 Groups etc are not typos.
I had a quick look at the 1901 and 1911 index and can't see an Arthur Warrilow in Northants. They seem to be clustered around Stone, Staffs.
They must have some significance. It's a pity there are no qualifying remarks in the last column.
Phil
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See http://www.northants-familytree.netCLARKE - Rushden, ROSE - Northampton/Middleton Cheney, PERRIN - Rushden/Northampton, LANHAM - Northampton/Suffolk, COLES/HOWE - Northampton/Wellingborough, LYMAN - Northampton, NIGHTINGALE - Eastcote/Pattishall, MORING - Northampton, WILLMOTT - Northampton/Luddington, RUSSELL - Newnham, ALLEN - Harlestone, BONHAM - Bugbrooke/Potterspury, BIGNELL - Paulerspury, HAWKES - Northampton/Chesham, INWOOD - Northampton, GARDNER - Pattishall |
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