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Aussie Candy
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Hi Everyone,
Does anyone have access to those records at Newbury please? I am searching for TULL ancestors and believe at least one was baptised there in January 1765 (David Tull - father John Tull, mother Mary unknown). I already have David's birth date so I am now trying to ascertain if he had siblings baptised there also. I would very much welcome any other details of TULL folk at the Newbury Independent Chapel this may help me to sort out a few families.
Kind regards,
Candy
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Blinco, Howell, Prue, Hickman, WAR
Bridge, Beard, Corp, Keech, Jones, Fry, Whitaker, Mayhew, Ree, LDN/MDX
Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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Hi,
Thanks dee-jay, I've already used Hugh's pages a lot for various ancestors and found David on his own just as you did.
Thanks anyway
Regards,
Candy
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Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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Hi Dee-jay,
Thank you for your PM's and your discretion. After I received David Tull's birth details last year I searched the IGI to try to find his parents and found at least 6 couples named John Tull & Mary. We don't have Mary's surname confirmed although it is likely she was Mary Batchelor from Tadley. Most of our Tull folk were from around the Tadley area so the marriage of John & Mary there seems most likely but not guaranteed as you know! The Tadley records have been checked and there are no children registed there for this couple. As they lived at Padworth Hatch at the time of David's birth any siblings may be registered elsewhere if J & M moved around a bit.
So I guess there's a 1 in 6 that the gentleman John Tull you gave us, who had more money than sense, could be ours! (Pun intended). Although I think it is unlikely as I have a death for John Tull in Tadley that matches pretty well.
Thank you so very much for the links, a2a always confuses me so you have helped me learn to navigate the site. The results you found for David is definitely my ancestor. You are a real gem!!  thank you very much I hadn't explored the Hants gov website that far so you have given us a bonus by confirming that Moses was his son, we didn't know for sure until now.
Do you know if obtaining copies of these original docs about David would give us any additional information about his family or his occupation as a Cordwainer? I'd love to know if they have any records of his craft/trade as a Master bootmaker. Some of his sons and grandsons carried on the trade.
Thanks again for all your help.
Regards,
Candy
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Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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Hi Dee-jay,
Your message about their marriage came just as I tried to post this message. Yes I have their marriage details thanks and have David's death certificate and a copy of the PR for David's birth. As I mention below, we have David's lot pretty well sorted, it's his parents and siblings I'm hunting for now... like a bloodhound... time you got some sleep isn't it!?!
I had a trip back to England in 2000 and was there for 6 months and found a distant cousin on Mum's side while there. Lesley very kindly took me to the FRO a few days before I came back to Aus. At the FRO I found several of David's 10 children including their birth dates. I've since been given a lot more info by a lady who lives near Tadley. Iris very kindly sorted them all into families for me. Hugh's page does have a few of David's children and grandchildren. We have most of that lot all sorted and I must be related to half of Pamber, Silchester, Tadley and wherever they dispersed to etc and have seen many names linking to Tull's on the Pamber website. It would be great to find some living cousins to share all this info with as Iris gave me several generations and all the Tadley census details.
My brick wall is John & Mary, it would be wonderful to sort out their children. One of David's grandchildren married a grandchild of Daniel Tull (also of Tadley) & as they were married the year before David died I'm sure that David knew Daniel and I think D & D may even have been cousins, several Tull folk were married around the same time as our David, a few were witness at each others weddings. I know several descendants of Daniel who are stuck on a brick with him, we are likely related but as you probably know with these nonconformist records some details have gone missing. So there's a bit of a gap between us and Jethro Tull... will we ever find out if we are related to him I wonder?
Yes, can a swim duck? Sure, I'd really appreciate any docs you can access for me on your next visit to the HRO please... after you've had a few sleeps that is!
Thanks again.
Candy
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Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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Dee-jay,
Here's David's details:-
RG4/301 David son of John & Mary Tull born Dec 23rd 1764, was baptised 17 Jan 1765 at Padworth Hatch. (IGI says bapt at Newbury).
Marriage as you found is correct.
Death certificate- 28.3.1850 Mortimer West End David Tull - Male 85 yrs Cordwainer Old Age not certified (Moses Tull present at the death Mortimer West End) etc etc.
Iris thought Moses was David's son, the death certificate seemed to make it even more likely and you helped confirm it with the details earlier today. Bless you!
I tend to think (but can't confirm) that David's parents were:-
John Tull bapt 26/10/1729 Tadley m. Mary Batchelor 31.5.1756 Tadley. Iris said there are no records of children for this couple at Tadley. I can't prove that they are David's parents and don't have any children for them, not for lack of searching either!
Iris has given me John (as above) his siblings; parents and father's siblings and grandfather. But the link is a bit tentative at John & Mary. As said previously there were a few couples of the same name, although the above are most likely. Being cordwainers they did tend to move around a bit. David's grandson Thomas had at least 5 different addresses, marriage was his main reason for moving.
My only definite Tull cousin passed away last month, he was very ill so it was good that he made it to a couple of reunions in UK recently and we shared some info. I've been given heaps of Tadley Parish BDM details but no one to share it with and can't make any progress over this brick wall!
Cheers,
Candy
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Blinco, Howell, Prue, Hickman, WAR
Bridge, Beard, Corp, Keech, Jones, Fry, Whitaker, Mayhew, Ree, LDN/MDX
Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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Can I have some of your codeine pleeease! Groan, groan!!!
Yes, John Tull & Mary Eades are potential parents too, I don't have any contacts in Wilts. Never thought about John son of Jethro Jnr before. Just been looking at the copy of Jethro Snrs tree but it doesn't have dates for his grandson John. Jethro Jnr was bur in 1744, so yes John is a potential ancestor too. I will look at a2a again.
Tried to find children of John & Mary at Liddington on Hugh's site but it's making my headache worse. I think I need something stronger than codeine! But I don't think they allow morphine for self-inflicted genealogy pain.
I will follow up your leads with the WRO, thank you very much for your kindness.
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Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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Good morning Dee-jay,
Glad you slept well, nearly my turn to hit the hay!
I've just discovered a great site, then promptly found a link on the London board but I posted it in the common room as it's excellent. I meant to name the subject
Does this ring a bell with anyone?
Think I found an ancestor... the elusive John Tull, but it's not a confirmed sighting yet.
Maybe you will find an ancestor there too.
http://ascy.org.uk/pages/membership.htm
Thanks for the details of Jethro Jnr. The Jethro Tull tree info I have, which goes back to JT snr's grandparents, was given to me by someone who has researched the Tull's around that area for many years. Although I don't know how accurate it is, it's just handy to have it as a reference guide. It is TBC just as all my other info is To Be Confirmed!
Cheers,
Candy
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Bridge, Beard, Corp, Keech, Jones, Fry, Whitaker, Mayhew, Ree, LDN/MDX
Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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By the way you are right about the calendar, I forgot about that! I'm having an early night as I'm doing work for someone else while they are on holiday this week as well as my own work.
Thanks for all your help.
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Bridge, Lilley, Linnett, Querry, Skingsley, Wes(t)ley, ESS
Blinco, Howell, Prue, Hickman, WAR
Bridge, Beard, Corp, Keech, Jones, Fry, Whitaker, Mayhew, Ree, LDN/MDX
Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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Aussie Candy
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Hi Dee-jay,
That's really wonderful news, thank you so very much!!
will PM my email address,
Cheers,
Candy
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Bridge, Lilley, Linnett, Querry, Skingsley, Wes(t)ley, ESS
Blinco, Howell, Prue, Hickman, WAR
Bridge, Beard, Corp, Keech, Jones, Fry, Whitaker, Mayhew, Ree, LDN/MDX
Carpenter, Hitch, Jarvis, Jones, CAM
Fry, Hole, Monger, Matchwick, Nash, Wells, SRY
Ashby, Chadband, Keech, Oliver, Shelston, NTH
Beale, Hawkins, Morgan, Pearce, Smith, Tull, Wild, Winston, HAM
Beard, Carter, Malpass, GLS
Clark, Draper, Hanslow, Lawley, Ree, Winwood, SAL
Chadband, Lancs
Thustin, BKM
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