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Topic: Pitt 1841 census Maidstone (Read 594 times)
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The Scrubber
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Please can anyone look up a Pitt family living in Maidstone all l know is
father William pitt, Printer/compositor
Mother unknown
and a Charles Sydney Pitt born around 1833 in maidstone.
there may be others in the family, I have looked in the maidstone 1851 census and cant find Charles there then and by 1857 he had married and was living in central London.
Thank you
Tony
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Broadhurst, Covell, Benefer, Burkin, Burrows, Burton, Butters, Cooper, Cross, Dack, Dunham, Dobinson, Goward, Henley, Hills, Isbill, Leeds, Mclean, Meachen, Morgan, Osborn, Page, Pitt, Smalls, Sutton, Walford, Westlake, Wright, Wyatt
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bearkat
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Census Info. is Crown Copyright, from www.national
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from 1851 census
Charles Sydney PITT working as a clerk, 17, born Maidstone, living at 7 Buckingham Place, St George, Hanover Square
with his parents Roger 48, a printer born Tiverton and Jane 50, born Tavistock. There is a servant Maria SMITH 13 and a lodger Henry HARDING 30
HO107/1478 folio 349 page 17
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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bearkat
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Census Info. is Crown Copyright, from www.national
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Roger PITT was a printer living in Union Street, Maidstone 1827 - 1835
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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The Scrubber
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Thank you Bearkat
This could be very interesting my Charles was a Clerk all his life, the age is correct and the birth place also correct the fathers name doesn't match the marriage certs but he may have changed the name around or living with a uncle for some reason. This is my direct family but it is very tight lipped and seems to have as a distant cousin said skeletons in the cupboard.
Thanks again Bearkat your so kind
Tony
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bearkat
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Hi Troods and The Scrubber
Worth following up. There can't be many people that made the journey from Tiverton to Maidstone. You can understand that people moved to the nearest large town or London looking for work although Maidstone had a thriving paper industry.
bearkat
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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The Scrubber
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Hi Bearkat and Troods
This is really getting intriguing, I have found my Charles Sidney in the 1861 census living just round the corner to Roger and Jane Pitt, there are no other Charles Sidney's in the 1861 or 1871 censuses , there are no deaths of a Charles S between 1851 and 1861 so it looking very much like Charles and Roger are related if not father and son.
I have sent of for the death certs of Roger and Jane to see if that can give any clues and also we are going to Maidstone this Friday and Saturday to have a look at the 1841 census and look for Charles's birth.
I will let you know how we get on.
Again thank you so much for the info
Take care
Tony 
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Caliandris
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My great grandmother, Lottie Dickins
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I know I am a couple of years late to this conversation, but I am descended from William Henry Pitt, son of Roger and Jane Pitt of Tiverton and Tavistock.
My ancestor William was born at Maidstone, within four years of Charles Sidney Pitt. I have Charles, Roger and Jane together for the 1851 census, but Roger and Jane on their own for 1861.
If you have any more information about the Devon ancestors, I'd be interested to know it!
thanks
Fee
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Spivey, Hughes, Jones Carmarthen 19th c
Spivey, Armitage in Almondbury, Yorkshire 18th c
Dickins Staffordshire and Birmingham 18th and 19th c
Aldridge, Robey, Jearrad in London 18th and 19th
Pitt and Westlake Devon 17th and 18th c
Earwaker London and Hampshire 18th and 19th
Fitzpatrick in The Rower, Kilkenny, Ireland
Clarke, Hewitt, Starkey, Green in Cheshire 19th and 20th
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Caliandris
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My great grandmother, Lottie Dickins
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Incidentally I have the family all together in Windsor in 1841, at Clewer fields, although I still have that as a possible only.
Fee
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Spivey, Hughes, Jones Carmarthen 19th c
Spivey, Armitage in Almondbury, Yorkshire 18th c
Dickins Staffordshire and Birmingham 18th and 19th c
Aldridge, Robey, Jearrad in London 18th and 19th
Pitt and Westlake Devon 17th and 18th c
Earwaker London and Hampshire 18th and 19th
Fitzpatrick in The Rower, Kilkenny, Ireland
Clarke, Hewitt, Starkey, Green in Cheshire 19th and 20th
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The Scrubber
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HI Fee
I tried to find someone related to William Henry Pitt (my Charles only had one son) but l lost the family when William died in 1882.
I don't know what you know of the Pitts? I can say l have most of the certs and proof of the tie in with our Roger and the Tiverton Roger Pitt, the records on the net from our relative in Australia are Baptism records and the actual birth dates are very diffrent as l am finding out (Ive just brought copy's of the Tiverton parish records on film). On the net it seems we have several sets of twins but we don't, it seems that the Pitt clan kept on changing religion and having the kids baptized years after they were born, something that still carries on with my aunties to this day.
Did you know Charles and William married sisters? the Westlakes.
I'm just putting the family back onto the computer as l lost the lot when a bug was downloaded and whipped my hard drive, so l cant send you any info in gencom form, but here is my email address and you tell me what you have and l will send you copy's of what l can. email address removed by moderator - please use the secure Rootschat personal message system to exchange personal email addresses thankyou
Where abouts do you live? I'm in Norfolk moved from London in 1975.
Just thought l don't know if you are with Genesreunited on the net but l have a family tree (a little old now) on there. If you are a member contact me through that and l will open my tree to you.
I look forward to hearing from you Fee
Take Care
Tony
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The Scrubber
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Just thought Fee, l know its a long shot but do you have any photos of Charles and William Henry and do you know what happened to there brother Fredrick and sister Hester Pearce Pitt? Ive lost track of them.
I pretty sure that that is our family in clewer fields it all seems to match but by all accounts it was a very ruff area so why Roger went there and left his shop in Maidstone l don't know. From Charles down to my granddad there are several mystery's.
Tony
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Caliandris
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My great grandmother, Lottie Dickins
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Hello, Cousin! I have replied offlist to your email, but I thought it was only polite to leave a follow up on this board too.
I have quite a lot of information about Walter Charles and William Henry and descendants.
I am not convinced that the Australian PITTs are directly related to "my" Pitts, I had assumed that they were a different generation altogether. My experience with the Dickins family, where the same names get recycled over and over again, has made me reluctant to assume that there is a link unless I prove it with census or births marriages and deaths info. The Dickins family use and reuse Thomas and John, through many generations, and I was assuming Samuel, Roger and William might be like that for the Pitt family.
I don't know about Hester or Frederick. Currently I have Charles, William and Esther as children of Roger and Jane PITT. I was assuming that they might have gone to Maidstone via Clewer Fields, but I see now that was stupid as Charles and William had already been born there.
The census seems to indicate Roger went from Tiverton to Maidstone, then from there to Windsor, and then in 1851 he is in London, as he is in 1871 and 1881. I am wondering if he went with another Pitt, maybe a brother, and moved on? Maybe the Richard Pitt who was on trial at Maidstone and was transported is the child of a brother?
Look forward to exchanging note and theories for the future!
best wishes
Fee
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Spivey, Hughes, Jones Carmarthen 19th c
Spivey, Armitage in Almondbury, Yorkshire 18th c
Dickins Staffordshire and Birmingham 18th and 19th c
Aldridge, Robey, Jearrad in London 18th and 19th
Pitt and Westlake Devon 17th and 18th c
Earwaker London and Hampshire 18th and 19th
Fitzpatrick in The Rower, Kilkenny, Ireland
Clarke, Hewitt, Starkey, Green in Cheshire 19th and 20th
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Caliandris
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My great grandmother, Lottie Dickins
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I don't have any pictures of Walter Charles Pitt or William Henry Pitt but it is possible that our cousin may have. She is in home for those of advanced age, but I know my mother is in contact with her. I will get her to ask next time she calls. She lived with her Earwaker grandmother, but seems to know a great deal about the Pitts too. As she had photographs of Theophilus and Elizabeth Earwaker who are the same generation as William Henry, there is a chance she may have pictures....
bws
Fee
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Spivey, Hughes, Jones Carmarthen 19th c
Spivey, Armitage in Almondbury, Yorkshire 18th c
Dickins Staffordshire and Birmingham 18th and 19th c
Aldridge, Robey, Jearrad in London 18th and 19th
Pitt and Westlake Devon 17th and 18th c
Earwaker London and Hampshire 18th and 19th
Fitzpatrick in The Rower, Kilkenny, Ireland
Clarke, Hewitt, Starkey, Green in Cheshire 19th and 20th
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peter laugharne
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi, Could you please send this message on to Troods who replied to your request re Pitt Family.
Could you please give me details of Richard Pitt, son of Richard Pitt and Jane Tanner.
According to my information, Richard Pitt senior emigrated to Tasmania in 1803 with three of his children, Salome, Francis and Philip, leaving one child behind with Jane. Could this be the Richard you refer to?
Many thanks
Peter.
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casalguidi
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Hi Peter
As Troods has contributed to this topic they should get notification by email that there has been a further reply 
Casalguidi 
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