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keith110639
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Vine family
« on: Sunday 09 October 05 15:42 BST (UK) »

Does anyone have any links with or information on the Vine family of Spalding. My Great Grandad was a mariner, skipper of the Humber Keel, "Breeze" registererd at Boston, Lincs. I would like to know more about his parents and about the ship.
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 October 05 16:09 BST (UK) »

Keith

Have you tried the 1881 census on CD as it lists the misc people ie boats and royal navy, merchant ships.  Important to obtain birth marriage and death certs for the family including any siblings and check in various census data for area which will give you a fix on residence etc.  Local library may have history of the local boats and canals.  Ship may still exist.

Hope this helps a bit.

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DUNN - Cambuslang, LKS
FORSYTH - Shotts, LKS
FRAME - Hamilton, LKS
HODGSON - Hamsterley, DUR
HUMPHREY - Easingwold, NRY
HUNT - Frimley, Surrey
MCKECHNIE - Argyll - Shotts
NETHERCLIFF(T)/ DRAYCOTT Sandhurst, BKS
PEPPERCORN - Lolworth, Cambs
PRATT - Thirsk, NYK
REDSHAW - Hamsterley, DUR
REYNOLDS - Fritton,Stratton,NFK
ROWLEY - STS to DUR
TALLACK - St Agnes Padstow,CON
WALMSLEY - NRY,Brum
WILSON - Hamsterley, Co Durham
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 October 05 13:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Keith,

Tell us a little more about your ggranddad! First name, birth year, wife, children etc.

We'll try and have a look for him.

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Re: Vine family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 October 05 13:43 BST (UK) »

Great Grandad Vine was John Henry Vine, born1847, married to Rebecca, born 1849 both in Spalding, Lincs. Children were Florence Daisy born 1872, Thomas H born 1878, Edith Ada born 1880 (my grandmother), Roland born 1883, died 15-10-1917 burried at Poelcapelle British Cemetary, & George 1885. I have census pages for 1881, 91, & 1901 I would realy like to go back another generation to his father & mother. Also find out if his father as well as brothers were also mariners.
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 October 05 13:49 BST (UK) »

1851  Cool
HO7/2096 456 50
Spalding Lincolnshire
William Row
Hannah Vine, wife, mar, 28, mariner's wife
Hannah, dau, 8, scholar
William H, son, 5, scholar

Everybody born Spalding

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Re: Vine family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 October 05 13:56 BST (UK) »

Matthew could be John's father, worth holding on file  until you have confirmation from certificates.
Cheers Jan Wink

Commercial Rd Spalding
Elizabeth Vine 60 Ind
do do 30 do
Japhes 15 do
Matthew do 20 Mariner
Joseph do 2
All born in county
HO107-0610 ED9 Folio8 Pg14
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 October 05 13:57 BST (UK) »

Yes, looks good!

1861
RG9/4462 on board the Breeze (3) - ship belonging to the port of Boston  
Position at midnight April 7, 1861 : Caen

Matthew Vine, mar, 43, Master,b. Spalding
John Endesby (?), mar, 53, mate, b. Spalding
Robert Geant, unm, 24, Seaman, b. Little Oakley
John Vine, 16, Boy, b. Spalding

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Re: Vine family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:00 BST (UK) »

Exciting Tanya Grin
Almost as good as chasing one of your own.
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:02 BST (UK) »

I agree, Jan!

1861
RG9/2323 104 49
Spalding
Willow Row

Hannah Vine, wife, mar, 37, Merchant seaman's wife, b. Spalding
Hannah (S? or I? or J?), dau, unm, 17, b. Spalding

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Re: Vine family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:07 BST (UK) »

1871
Can't see John right away, but here are Matthew and Hannah:
RG10/3322 63 31
Spalding
Broad Street

Matthew Vine, head, 53, Ship owner, b. Spalding
Hannah, wife, 47, b. do.
 
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #10 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:08 BST (UK) »

Got them together, that's good Grin
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:19 BST (UK) »

Couldn't find anything about the Breeze but here's a picture of the last surviving Humber Keel


http://www.nhsc.org.uk/index.cfm/event/getVessel/vref/435

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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: Vine family
« Reply #12 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:38 BST (UK) »

Marriages June 1870 Spalding
Rebecca Ann Draper
and either William Skinner or John Henry Vine

1871
RG10/3321 Folio 52 p. 9
Spalding Holbeach Road 

Rebecca A Vine, wife, mar, 22, Mariner's wife b. Lincs Spalding 

All by herself.

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Re: Vine family
« Reply #13 on: Monday 10 October 05 14:41 BST (UK) »

What do you say, Keith  Cheesy

Would you like Rebecca in 1861?

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Re: Vine family
« Reply #14 on: Monday 10 October 05 15:35 BST (UK) »

Interesting stuff. I think John Henry married to Rebecca is the same as I have for 1881 with my grandmother Edith Ada age 1. Any years previous to this would be great. I cannot connect John Henry with Matthew as the John on the Breeze in Caen in1861 is not the right age. I do know that john Henry was skipper of the Breeze around 1900.
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