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Topic: 1851/1861/1871 census: William Hammonds, Steyning (Read 251 times)
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acauston
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Hello, I am trying to establish some continuity (or not) in this man's stated occupation. William & Elizabeth married and raised two children at Steyning. However, by the 1881 census, William was widowed and he was a Labourer at the East India Dockyards in London. When his daughter Jane married in 1857 (at Brighton), she stated her father's occupation was shipwright. I am hoping to corroborate something along these lines (dock worker/shipwright) by finding William Hammonds in any of the 1851, 1861 or 1871 censuses. Could someone help, please? This information might help determine whether daughter Jane had married her first cousin.
Cheers, from a rainyrainyrainy Annapolis Valley,
Alison Causton
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acauston
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Hi, sillgen and Suey:
William was a "Hammonds", born in 1815 at Steyning in Sussex. Sorry for the lack of detail in my original post ... I realized this omission as we were driving away to a meeting this afternoon! 
Yes, that's "our" William Hammonds in the 1881 census, and sillgen's find at Northfleet in Kent does fit. Heaven only knows where Jane is ... probably in service somewhere ... and I certainly did not know about these other children born after Thomas!! I had only Jane and Thomas from baptisms in the Steyning parish register, not knowing the family had moved on to Northfleet. Thank you so much for this information.
Is William given as a labourer in the 1851 census?
Cheers,
Alison
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London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.
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acauston
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Hello, Andrea:
Yes, the name changed from Hammonds to Hammond during the mid-nineteenth century. I don't know when William died, but it was after the 1881 census (when he appeared, widowed and living with son Thomas).
I see Suey's popped up with some more census data ;-).
Cheers,
Alison
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London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.
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acauston
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Hello again, Suey:
Interesting -- I had the 1861 and the 1871 census data for Jane and Thomas (and subsequent census data for their children), but had not made the connection to Isaac in the 1861!
I was hoping to find Isaac's father William in either the 1861 or 1871 census, primarily to find out what his stated occupation was in those censuses. In 1881, he said he was a Laborer on the East India Docks, while son Thomas was given as a shipwright.
There's a bit of method to my madness, if you'll bear with me. Several months ago, I purchased Jane's & Thomas' marriage registration, which gave the following data:
- Thomas Lamport, 23, bachelor, labourer, parish of Newhaven in this county, father: Henry Lamport, shepherd (our 2xG-grandfather).
- Jane Lamport, 27, spinster, 52 Norfolk Square, father: William Lamport, shipwright.
- Marriage solemnized at St Nicholas Church, Brighton.
At the time, I didn't know how, or if, this Jane Lamport figured into our family tree. In subsequent censuses for Thomas' & Jane's family (the 1861, 1871 and 1881), I noted that Jane gave her place of birth as Steyning and year of birth as 1830. So, I looked into my file of transcription notes of Lamport (& Lampard, etc etc) data from the Steyning parish records. I found one Jane Lamport baptised on 19 July 1829 (and no other of similar name for 16+ years either side of that year). Jane's mother was recorded as "Elizabeth, servant". In 1834, Elizabeth had another child, Thomas, and she was recorded as "Elizabeth, singlewoman." In 1835, Elizabeth married William Hammonds at Steyning. That's where I lost track of the William & Elizabeth Hammonds family.
Although Jane's father is given as "William Lamport" on the marriage registration, I think this was probably an error. I have a hunch that what happened was, when asked her father's name and occupation, Jane replied, "William, shipwright", leaving the priest to fill in the blank about her father's surname.
I would like to "close the loop" between Jane and Thomas, that is, link the two families in the family tree. I feel that I can reasonably do so depending what the 1861, 1871 and 1891 censuses say about William Hammonds' occupation.
I hope I've explained this clearly ... it's clear in my mind and in my software program, but might have suffered something in the translation to this post  .
Many thanks for all your patience!!
Alison Causton
Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia
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acauston
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Hi, Suey:
Yes, please, that would be lovely to have William Jnr. As for William Snr., he must have ducked when the enumerator came along  .
Thank you for all your efforts. Odd that, isn't it.
Alison
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London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.
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acauston
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Thank you, Suey, for all your help. It's helpful/interesting to have tracked William Jnr, but honestly -- that elusive Dad .
Cheers,
Alison
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