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treefreak
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Hi everyone
I really need to find Robert Millar in 1871.
Robert was born about 1839 and would be living in Paisley/Greenock area.
In 1881 he is with his 2nd wife Janet who he married in 1875 but the problem I have is that I have 3 children born to Robert Millar and Janet Cameron before their marriage. On Robert and Janets mariage certificate it states that Robert is a widower.
Any help would be appreciated
Sandra
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Brown - Renfrewshire, McCann - Ayreshire and Ireland, Fellows - Bilston and Willenhall, Morris - Tipton, Moody - Coseley/Dudley, Arnold - Tipton, Knowles - Willenhall, Banks - Willenhall, Martin - Tipton, Wolverson - Willenhall   |
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treefreak
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Thank you for your help 
Smaller world than I thought if he married TWO Janet Cameron women.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Brown - Renfrewshire, McCann - Ayreshire and Ireland, Fellows - Bilston and Willenhall, Morris - Tipton, Moody - Coseley/Dudley, Arnold - Tipton, Knowles - Willenhall, Banks - Willenhall, Martin - Tipton, Wolverson - Willenhall |
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JAP
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Sandra,
The IGI has four children born to a Robert MILLER/MILLAR and a Janet CAMERON in Greenock before 1875.
Catherine 1866
Jane 1868
John 1870
Robert 1871
It might be that Robert married two women named Janet CAMERON - it is not an uncommon name. Or it might be that there was just the one Janet CAMERON and, for whatever reason, they did not marry until after they had had several children together.
You can find the 1871 (and 1861) census on (the pay-per-view) site ScotlandsPeople at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Have you obtained Robert's death certificate? If he died in Scotland, Scottish death certificates usually list the names of all wives if there was more than one. You could then search for the death certificate of the first wife on SP and that should tell you when she died (perhaps Robert was not free to marry before 1875).
Good luck,
JAP
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treefreak
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Thank you for your info Jap
On Robert Miller and Janet Cameron's marriage certificate in 1875 it stated that Robert was a widower.
I will try and find him in 1871 census.
Thank you
Sandra
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Brown - Renfrewshire, McCann - Ayreshire and Ireland, Fellows - Bilston and Willenhall, Morris - Tipton, Moody - Coseley/Dudley, Arnold - Tipton, Knowles - Willenhall, Banks - Willenhall, Martin - Tipton, Wolverson - Willenhall |
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JAP
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Hi Sandra,
Yes, I understood that you had indicated that Robert had stated he was a widower when he married in 1875. But I gather that it gives no indication of when his previous wife died. So I guess it's always possible that he left his first wife, and that she was still alive when he and Janet started having children - and that it was only after the first wife died that he could marry Janet. On the other hand, his first wife might have died much earlier and there might have been no particular reason why he and Janet didn't marry until 1875.
The 1871 census might or might not help - often people who were not married to each other stated in the census that they were! Similarly on the birth certificates of their children!
Robert's death certificate, if it states the name of his first wife, would be good to have - then you could search for the death of that lady on SP.
Cheers,
JAP
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treefreak
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Thank you JAP, I will do this.
Sandra
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Brown - Renfrewshire, McCann - Ayreshire and Ireland, Fellows - Bilston and Willenhall, Morris - Tipton, Moody - Coseley/Dudley, Arnold - Tipton, Knowles - Willenhall, Banks - Willenhall, Martin - Tipton, Wolverson - Willenhall |
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