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Re: HTML help - RootsChat link
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 November 05 18:11 GMT (UK) »

It's not just with frames, it upsets pages which use absolute positioning as well. I don't use frames at all, but depending on how the page is set up, the link either parks itself right across the page at the bottom (where I have two columns), or gets in the way of the titles at the top. I already use CSS and it doesn't have any effect on the logo, and the code for the logo doesn't show up in File Manager so it can't be moved to a more suitable place.

I know it mustn't be hidden so I've incorporated the code into every page I write, I just want it not to appear again when I upload.  I'll ask Trystan again as you suggest Bob.

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 12 November 05 22:14 GMT (UK) »

Hi Headbanger

You can control it with CSS. The trouble is that you have to use the basic DIV to do it. That means that every DIV in your webpages have to have a class defined for them.

Absolute positioning is awful. Anything which is absolutely positioned is invisible to any normally formatted tags that come after.

The only thin that I can come up with is an invisible gif graphic which is as tall as you need it to be. It doesn't have to be very wide. Display that as the last thing on your page and the logo should appear below it.
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 November 05 22:35 GMT (UK) »

Hi, I realise that, but I don't think I mean quite the same thing. I could put a gif in to force the logo to the bottom of every page, but I don't want to do that. What I want is to control where on the page the link appears. If it's hard wired into the html it shouldn't need to appear again at all.

I think I'll wait for Trystan.....  Undecided

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« Reply #18 on: Saturday 12 November 05 23:09 GMT (UK) »

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 13 November 05 08:45 GMT (UK) »

Trystan is sorting it out now!!

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh I am so looking forward to getting it online!!

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 13 November 05 10:04 GMT (UK) »

Vernon,

Should be sorted for you now.  Wink

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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 13 November 05 10:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi Trystan

I don't know what changes you have made but unfortunately it does not cure my particular problem. Sad

It seems my problem is due to KSTABLEAU using a 'style' to define default values for TABLE and P. I think what I need is a way to cancel or redefine these values at the end of my page. Is there a concept of SCOPE in html?

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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 13 November 05 11:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi Keith

You said earlier that you can read and modify previous pages. I started trying to use kstableau but I didn't like the formatting, however I use a similar technique to design my family tree pages and that's why I asked the question in the first place.

You could try doing what I've done (which is now working fine, thank you Trystan!!!!  Cool) which is this.

Have a look at the source code for one of your uploaded pages and identify the the code for the link. Or have a look at Berlin Bob's posting in the earlier thread I started at
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,90862.0.html
where he told me the code for the footer.

Offline, play around with the coding for your web pages so that the link appears where you want it on the page. Make sure you incorporate the code in every page you create.

Then send a PM to Trystan and ask him to switch off the automatic link from your webspace. That's what he's just done for me. I now have the link immediately under the header on all the pages that are there and can place it where I want in anything new I upload.

My website isn't all uploaded yet, I'm still testing things out, but have a look at http://veronspeople.rootschat.net/
and try the family tree link to "view Craddock ancestral chart" to see what I mean.  I think it looks lovely but I'm biased.

Hope this helps. I didn't know anything about html until about 3 months ago so if I can do it I'm sure you can.

Cheers

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Re: HTML help - RootsChat link
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 13 November 05 15:06 GMT (UK) »

There is one possible method of forcing the logo to the bottom of the page.

If you are using a program to generate your html then create a paragraph with some short sentence in it which you place at the bottom of your page.

Then open your html file in a text editor and delete the short sentence AND the </div > which follows it.

This will leave you with an unclosed <div >.

This is of course illegal, but I think that all the browsers will treat the missing </div > as being there.

(edit) the logo which is added after will sit inside the Div box and will therefore (hopefully) appear in place of your short sentence which you removed.

Then save your file and upload to the server.

Hopefully your troubles will be over.
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