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Re: JANE family Bodmin
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 02:58 GMT (UK) »

Kris..this is fantastic information.  Grin Thank you.

I have been scouring my map of Cornwall, poor tired thing that it is becoming, and I have noticed there is actually a place/area called Indian Queens. So could be either. Indian Queens might have been where they were living then, or Jane could have returned for the birth to her parent's posting house and inn, The Indian Queen Inn, located near the junction at Fraddon, at the road off to Newquay in the west. Indian Queens seems to be only about a mile, if that, from the actual inn. Something new I have learnt geographically.

Kris, I assume "By Licence" means Jane was under age at the time of her marriage to William Hugo?

The John Hugo's baptism you listed for Feb 1800....his baptism notes record that John is the son of William and Jane Hugo. Am I reading you correctly?

Armed with new information, I'll have a browse through the IGI. Fingers crossed.  Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 02:59 GMT (UK) »

Now on the Symons I see

Francis SYMONS otp = Elizabeth MARTIN otp 5 Sep 1765 St Columb Major (unfortunately the original is missing so I cannot confirm her name. All there is is the 1881 transcript by Mr Arthur Jewers, to assist with entries from 1755-1780 and it says Martin)

Baptised St Columb Major - parents Francis and Elizabeth

Ann 8 Mar 1767
William 2 Apr 1769
Peter 21 Apr 1771
Francis 13 Jun 1773
Eliz 16 Jul 1775
John 12 Jul 1778
Jane 24 Apr 1780

Sorry, I can see no burials for Francis and Elizabeth in St Col Major. I think I have taken a pretty good look though some spots are not too clear. Do you havve any idea when they died?

Time to get away from this reader I am seeing double ......LOL

Will be back later if you have any questions.

Cheers Kris  Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 03:08 GMT (UK) »

Timing.....I didn't realise you were back online.  Grin Sorry I really have to take my eyes away from screens for a bit but marriage was by 1 of two ways. Either by Banns, where the Banns of the marriage were read on three generally consecutive Sundays at least in one of the home parishes - usually the grooms -  prior to the marriage. The other way is by licence where with the payment of a fee a licence was granted and the marriage could take place immediately. The upper class generally preferred this method as it was a matter of status in that they could afford the fee, where other poorer folk could not. (though at times a marriages of poorer folk was by licence as for some reason they were in a hurry to tie the knot, (wishing to immigrate or baby about to arrive) In this case I suspect it was a matter of Status as William was a miller. The age of the participating parties would have no bearing on whether the marriage was by licence or banns.

Yes I found the three baptism in St Col Major. All list parents as William and Jane and I note John was a witness at the marriage.

Kris  Cheesy (Back Later)  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »

Ahha Elsie,

William HUGO left a will  Wink

A new day,  Grin sometime overnight it hit me that of course, a miller, this man would have left a will

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02vt/

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HUGO William Mar 1/4 1848 St Col 9 44

Burial very hard to read

William HUGO buried 9 Jan 1848 St Col Major, Res - I think it says Union Square St Columb He was aged 70.

I haven't had any luck finding him in 1841.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ukocp.html

Using the Cornwall Online Census Project to have a look about the area there are many families at Indian Queens but not William and no miller listed. I found many refs to Union Square also but alas no sign of William there either.  Cry

Kris  Cheesy

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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 21:12 GMT (UK) »

aha he is in St Kew with possible son Simon  Wink

HO107/152/10 Folio 9 Page 9
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HUGOE Simon 20 Y Ag Lab
HUGOE Lucy 20 Y
HUGOE Edwin 1 Y
HUGOE William 65 Yes Miller

Simon HUGO bap 14 Jul 1816 Kenwyn parents William and Jane.

(rounding down of ages in 1841) Also baptisms in St Austell I was looking at yesterday, listing a possible earlier son Simon among others. I also noted there is

Jane HUGO 1 July 1810 St Mewan parents William and Jenifer.

(Jane and Jenifer tend to be interchangeable names, and I noted at marriage Jenefer had been crossed out with Jane replacing it.) This may be the Jane who's burial I found yesterday in St Enoder. Perhaps the family moved around a bit, but would certainly be wanting to see this will.  Wink

All the Best

Kris  Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 21:52 GMT (UK) »

OHHH Elsie,

It looks like Francis also left a will

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02vv/


1795....No sign of a burial in St Col Major

Kris  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 21:58 GMT (UK) »

SYMONS Francis buried 19 Jun 1795 St Enoder aged 62 years

and Possibly

SYMONS Elizabeth buried 22 Jan 1797 St Enoder No age provided

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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 22:45 GMT (UK) »

Oh Kris!  Grin

I'm trembling...this is just so awesome. I'm pinching myself to believe it's true!!! To wake up this morning to find your absolutely wonderful postings. You are a Treasure!

I have just emailed the Council to enquire how I can obtain a copy of William Hugo's will.

Not only his will, though, is catalogued. As one does, of course, I typed in a few other names just on the off chance, and up came details of wills for some other forebears! A veritable treasure trove. I will work my way through a few other names later this morning.  Thank you for guiding me to this fabulous site Kris. I'd never have found it without your help.

A wall is starting to crumble! Wow!!!!

Time for a cuppa. Then pen and paper to hand ...  Can't see much housework being done today.  Wink

Thank you so much for your wonderful help.  Smiley

Elsie

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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 23:13 GMT (UK) »

Hi Elsie,

Lovely to have made somebody's day.  Ooohhh Makes me feel good. Grin  Grin  Grin

Look forward to hearing more when you get the will

It is not listed on National Archives Site so as far as I know, you will need to fill out the forms and send by snail mail. They require a signature to supply docs.

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=38229

Hope it is as good a find as it sounds  Grin

Kris  Cheesy
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