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Topic: Johnson family of Crosby Ravensworth/Shap/Hilton (Read 398 times)
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Gigi
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Hello All,
My brick wall at the moment is trying to find out where my ggg grandfather Richard Johnson was born. He died before 1841, so have no census help. There's nothing on the IGI for him except his marriage in Shap in 1814. I've searched the Shap PRs for his baptism & couldn't find him. I have found other possiblities in other parishes but have nothing to link the entry to my Richard Johnson. I cannot be sure that I have found the correct one. I have his burial record from the Crosby Ravensworth PRs: 23 MAY 1836 aged 50. This means he was born in 1786.
It was suggested to me to try and look at documents in the parish chest of Crosby Ravensworth where he worked as a blacksmith. Unfortunately, no such parish chest exists so am back to square one!
I have contacted Kendal Records office to see if there exists any apprenticeship records for blacksmiths in Shap & Crosby Ravensworth, but unfortunately there is nothing!!!
I have also looked at the witnesses of his marriage to see if they were possibly his siblings but the entry was most unhelpful: Witnesses:- John Mounsey, James Farrer. James Farrer is the Parish Clerk and witnesses most of the weddings at that time. John Mounsey appears to be his understudy, as he becomes clerk a year or so later.
I had thought of the naming pattern. A Richard Johnson I have found in the 1787 census of Westmorland living in Hilton, who I believe is the most likely candidate, has a father called Thomas. My Richard named his eldest son Thomas so that fits the pattern. He also has a son Ralph and my possible Richard's grandfather was Ralph Johnson.
I haven't looked into wills, maybe I should investigate?
Do any of you experts have any more ideas???
In hope, Gillian
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« Last Edit: Thursday 06 July 06 08:51 BST (UK) by Gigi »
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Elwood/Ellwood: WES & CUM Johnson: Crosby Ravensworth, Hilton & Dufton WES Robinson: CUM Langhorn: Kirkby Thore WES Dover: WES & CUM Parker: Soulby, Bedale Hunt: Gentleshaw, Bladon, Hanborough Slynn: Birmingham Rammell: KENT Felton: Shropshire
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Deborah Boss
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Gillian Is one of your sources for Richard Johnson the 1829 P&W directory? He is listed there and I notice that there is also a William Johnson (blacksmith) in Reagill.
There are no Johnson heads of household on the 1811 CR census.
CR parish records: Robert Johnson of Flass, Barnskew died in 1722 (children born 1707, 1711, 1719) Sarah Johnstone wife of William of Haberwain died 1760 Jane Johnstone married 1784 Mary Johnstone/Jonson married 1786 and having children 1787 to 1794 in CR
There are several burials of Johnstone children in CR between 1820 and 1827. I can give you more details (from transcript only) if you are interested. The original parish registers might give more information.
Have you looked at monumental inscriptions for Shap? I've looked for CR and there do not appear to be any relevant ones.
There is a record of a Richard Johnson age thirteen and a half being apprenticed to William and John Jackson, weavers until the age of twenty and one half years. This was in 1825 in CR. I wonder if he might be a cousin of your Richard?
I think your name linkages look promising.
Have you looked at the Askham parish registers as well? Does Richard's wife provide any clues?
Sorry I can't suggest anything very useful. Deborah
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leicslass
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Are you still looking for information on Richard Johnson of Crosby Ravensworth? I have details that might be for the same Richard. My interests are Johnson of Crosby Ravensworth, Dufton Appleby & Brough
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leicslass
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HI Gillian,
Here's what I have; Richard Johnson B 1789, Appleby. Died May 23 1836 Crosby Ravensworth.
Parents: Thomas B May 27 1755 - ? Stonemason. Mary Allon B.? - D: Mar 17, 1809, Coupland, West.
Siblings: Ann ? Ralph? Thomas 1782 William 1788 George 1789 John 1791 William 1793
Married: Elizabeth ? B: 1790, Warcrop D: Feb 28 1872. No date for marriage yet.
Children: Mary 1814 Thomas 1817 John 1819 Richard 1822 Sarah 1825 Christopher 1827 Ralph 1829
I am decended from Richard's brother, George (1789) Several of their children have the same names and are close in ages, so I've often chased Richard's thinking they were Georges. In fact I just got the marriage certificate for John 1819, only to find his father was Richard and not George. Let me know if this information is useful. I have so many Johnsons, let me know if you need more.
Good Luck,
Dee
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