England family, Rathmines, Dublin, 1900s

[dathai]

He may have married
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22frederick%20joseph%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Aengland~&collection_id=1408347

[Abhannliath]

Oh, well found! This looks good; and if his two brothers had 'J' as a middle initial, which looks likely, then perhaps Frederick Joseph is our boy.

I was feeling rather sad for Richard; Ashdale Avenue is a definite step down in the world from Palmerston Road:

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Ashdale+Ave,+Terenure,+Dublin/@53.3143479,-6.2840934,3a,90y,18h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sTNuqXOQHJhhU6q5CWyo8iw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x48670c0a4aa1a55f:0x530148152982be3c!6m1!1e1

- not that this necessarily means that he was any less happy, obv.

The first two Frederick Joseph Englands seem to be different records:

GS Film number: 101576 , Digital Folder Number: 004199368 , Image Number: 00130
GS Film number: 101576 , Digital Folder Number: 004199368 , Image Number: 00104

(or maybe not; everything except the image number is the same). However, I can't see how to get a wife off this record; I used to be able to do this, but either the site has changed or I've forgotten.

Oho, and a bit of a newspaper ad from a Winnipeg paper that I can't read without signing up to some plutocratic site:

"Nora Constance, to Mr. Frederick Joseph England, of Katugastota estate, ... The _weddmg will take place in Dublin, March 1. fourth, and Mrs Wallls. fifth, in th…"

(Also, I think she may have been Nora Constance Owston.)

[dathai]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYJY-K6D

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYJT-WYH

must have been a mixed marriage

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYJ1-92J

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYJB-C5Q

[dathai]

Nora Constance Owston
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22nora%20constance%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Aowston~

Nora Constance England ?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCV-L4T4

[Abhannliath]

Oh, well done, Daithi!

Now all I need is to find out what our Fred did in Worthing!

Edit: apparently he was a tea planter

"A Fred J and Nora C England (aged 41 and 27) appear on the passenger lists on Ancestry traveling from Ceylon (Sri Lanka) to Hull in 1930. Fred is recorded as a planter with an address at Park Villa, Chaucer Road, Ashford, Middlesex."

Further news: Here http://www.historyofceylontea.com/Estates/view/1429 there's a reference to FJ England in Ceylon as an employee of KATUGASTOTA tea plantation - the same name I'd previously seen in relation to the Owston family (as a house name - growing up in Dun Laoghaire I often saw houses with exotic Indian names, which were called after Indian and Ceylonese and Afghani places their owners had served in).

And more places this FJ England managed http://www.historyofceylontea.com/Users/view/11113745

[dathai]

A bit more info on the Coopers
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXK-RJR

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=caroline&name2l=&namefm=austin&namel=cooper&location=&yyfrom=&yyto=&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=&parish=&century=&decade=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&event=

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Acooper~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3A%22austin%20damer%22~%20%2Bfather_surname%3Acooper~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Acaroline~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Abloxham~&collection_id=1584963

http://thepeerage.com/p37419.htm#i374189