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Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« on: Thursday 14 August 14 15:30 BST (UK) »
Emily was born Calstock 1864 she has an older brother Alfred b1858 Calstock i have them on the 1871 census in Calstock names there parents as George Rowe b 1830 Minnineat and Elizabeth Rowe b1829 Highampton, Devon also on the 1871 census is
Ellen A Medland aged 15
Sara A Medland aged 6

its obvious george rowe remarried but i cannot find them on the 1881 census to find his first wifes name and any ideas on the second wifes surname pls

thank you  ???

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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 August 14 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hi there

Quite a complicated blended family by the looks of it! It may take some untangling.

As I am sure you will have seen from FreeBMD, the George Rowe/Elizabeth Medland marriage took place in Tavistock district in Mar qtr 1871, so they were newlyweds in that census.

Alfred is enumerated as b c 1858-9 St Ive(s) (not Calstock) in all censuses I can find.  He seems to have married a Hannah in Lanchester district in Jun qtr 1878 and in 1881 they have a baby and also Alfred's sister Georgina Rowe, 9 b Calstock, with them.

I can't easily see Alfred in the 1861 census.  Neither he nor Emily seems to have been registered at birth as Rowe.

Do you have later records of Emily showing what her middle initial A stood for?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 August 14 16:31 BST (UK) »
These may or may not be relevant:

Baptised at Calstock

14 Feb 1866: Beatrice Irene Rowe & Emily Rowe, daughters of George & Ann

19 Aug 1869: Thomas George Rowe, son of George & Mary Emma (he died aged 0 in 1870)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 August 14 16:50 BST (UK) »
On the Medland side:

Baptised at Calstock

21 Feb 1866

John Henry Medland
Ellen Ann Medland
Mary Anna Medland
Sarah Ann Medland

children of Robert & Elizabeth
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 August 14 16:50 BST (UK) »
on the 1891 census it says emma she is in cramlington from then onwards on the 1911 she is in durham and it states emily ann married name opie
i didnt know emily and alfred had a sister called georgina so thats good
her father george row is on the 1891 census as a boarder in cramlington states he is widowed ...the only time i have his second wife elizabeth on the census is on that 1871 census lol..i thought i would try this side of the family as it might be easier how wrong can one be lol

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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 August 14 16:52 BST (UK) »
Robert Medland died Sep qtr 1865 Tavistock.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 August 14 16:53 BST (UK) »
Robert (26) & Elizabeth (23) Medland are in Calstock in 1851 with children William 3 and George 8mo.

HO107/1901/43/16.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 August 14 17:01 BST (UK) »
OK I think I have a candidate for "Emily"'s birth registration:

Emmeline Ann Rowe, Sep qtr 1863 Tavistock 5b 362.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emily A Rowe 1864 Calstock
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 August 14 17:07 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage for George to Emily's mother:

Married at Calstock

28 Oct 1862

George Rowe, son of Robert Rowe

Ann Lane, daughter of Job Lucas
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)