Loney - dead end!

[gazza855]

My great-grandfather was Hugh Loney.  He was married to Mary (Petrie) in 1925 and I have their marriage cert.

However, I can find no record of Hugh's parents James Loney and Ellen (ms. O'Donnell).  I have tried SP and irish websites for their marriage and have found nothing.

James Loney was a coal miner - deceased at the time of Hugh's wedding in 1925.  Hugh was 31 and lived at 16 Elmvale Row.

Mary Petrie was also 31 and lived at 26 George St.  Her parents were David Petrie (deceased) and Mary (Connell).

If anyone can help with the Loney search that would be great.

Gazza

[hume]

Hi Gazza,

Just to get you some information, have you tried viewing this death certificate? It may be of Hugh's mother and will supply details of her parents and husband, if known.

Helen Loney, or O'Donnell, died 1950 in Springburn, Glasgow aged 78 (b.c. 1872)

hume

[crisane]

Do you have them in 1901
3 John Street Kirkintilloch Dunbartonshire
James Loney 34 coal miner born ENGLAND
Ellen 28 born Campsie Stirlingshire
Agnes 7
Hugh 6
James 2
Patrick 2 months
All children born Kirkintilloch

[crisane]

Going back to 1871 looking for James in England there was only one born c1867
1871 RG10/4971/7/8
Haswell Colliery
Denis Loney 27 coal miner born ireland
Nancy 31 ireland
Patrick 6 Ireland
James 4 Haswell Durham
Margaret 1 Haswell

Now this family turns up in Carluke Lanarkshire in 1881
Denis's age is out and I don't have access to the original image. Also Nancy has become Agnes but her age is good. Margaret is missing/she would be age 11.
1881
Denis 56 coal miner Ireland
Agnes 42 Ireland
Patrick 16 Ireland
James 14 England
Denis 6 Glasgow
John 2 months Carluke
Mary Ann 9 Glasgow
Agnes 1 Bathgate Linlithgowshire

[gazza855]

Hume - that might be here as Ellen could easily become Helen - and the date of birth ties in by 1 year with Crisane's info.

Crisane - there was only 1 Hugh Loney born around the 1890s and he was from Kirkintilloch on SP, so I am becoming pretty certain that your info is the info I am seeking.  Very surprised to see that James Loney was born in England though.  Perhaps james was married to Ellen in England which is why I can't find any info on SP.

[gazza855]

y great-grandfather Hugh was born in 1895, any reason why he would not be on the census of 1901?

sorry - going blind - just seend hugh's name

[crisane]

y great-grandfather Hugh was born in 1895, any reason why he would not be on the census of 1901?

sorry - going blind - just seend hugh's name

No you weren't going blind I had left him off and confused myself too!

[crisane]

1891 Scotland
Glenluggie Freeland Pl
Dennis Loney 46 coal miner Ireland
Anges Loney 50  Ireland
Denis Loney 16 coal miner Glasgow
Agnes Loney 11 Armadale Linlithgowshire
John Loney 9 Carluke
 
 

[gazza855]

Thank Crisane - you have opened up a whole lot of info for me to record, and to hopefully trace Denis Loney back even further through Ireland.

Any thoughts on the marriage of John and Ellen though - as this isn't showing up anywhere?