peter holland

[badmog]

peter holland born 27/may 1849 west leigh, father george coal-miner,think his mother was esther?would some one do me a 1861 look up and anything else they can find out about the family thank you

[miriamkinga]

Hi Badmog

1861 census - RG09 piece 2781 folio 43 page 8

George born Parr, lancs aged 50 coal miner, mother Esther 50 born Bootle, children Daniel 19 coal miner and James 17 coal miner both born Abram, John 14 coal miner born West Leigh, Peter 11 cm also born WL, William 9 scholar born WL and last but not least George 7 scholar born Abram.

Best wishes

Maria

[miriamkinga]

Do you have his baptism  from www.lan-opc.org.uk?

Baptisms: 27 May 1849 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England

Peter Holland - son of George Holland & Esther,     Abode: West Leigh,     Occupation: Collier,  Baptised by: Saml. Doria Offg. Minist.
 
Best wishes

Maria

[badmog]

thank you yes i found his birth,found a marriage for george and esther 25/9/1831 prescot do you think that is right?

[miriamkinga]

Do you have 1851 census? Same as 1861 but with addition of daughter Alice born 1846 in Westleigh - HO107 piece 2205 folio 245 page 44

From Lancs OPC site: -

Baptisms: 5 Mar 1845 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Alice Holland - dau. of George Holland & Esther
    Abode: Shuttle Hillock, Baptised by: John J Dixon

best wishes

Maria

[miriamkinga]

Hi, yes I've come up with the same marriage : -

Marriage: 25 Sep 1831 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
George Holland - (X), Collier bachelor of Windle
Esther Thompson - (X), spinster of Windle
    Witness: John Prescot; Margaret Holland, (X)
   
Strikes me that there is a big gap before the children came? I wonder if there were any earlier children? I'll have a look.

Maria

[miriamkinga]

Just George & Esther on 1841 census at Bickershaw Lane, Abram.

Best wishes

Maria

[miriamkinga]

There are a couple of earlier possible baptisms but I can't see corresponding deaths to explain why they aren't on the 1841 census: -

Baptisms: 25 Sep 1831 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
William Holland - Son of George Holland & Esther
    Abode: Parr
    Occupation: Collier
    Baptised by: T. Pigot
   
Baptisms: 15 Nov 1835 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
Margaret Holland - Daughter of George Holland & Esther
    Abode: Ashton
    Occupation: Collier

The one for William is the same day George & Esther got married but at a different church (?)

best wishes

Maria
   

[sallyyorks]

Hi there Badmog  .
George and Esther  Holland are my Grt x 3 grandparents by their son William (married Mary Ellen Livesey)  and then his son Peter (married Lena Davies) .

Esther was nee Tomlinson , her  father Peter  worked in a glassworks , mother Margaret  Andrews

The Hollands were coal miners going back quite a way.
Georges father Daniel was a coal miner too. The family were mostly Lancashire Catholics .
I have tree but i am at work at moment .
Will post again asap. All the best