Edwin ABBOTT - 1841 Census lookup

[Duncan Bennie]

Hi all

I am looking for the information of one Edwin Abbott born about 1838 in Westminster, Middlesex. I am particularly looking for the 1841 census of his family. His mother name was Sarah, his fathers was one Arthur Abbott.

I have searched the index of the 1841 Census, and there are 4 individuals named Edwin, but only one seems meets the requirements. If someone could look the record up for me it would be much appreciated.

This might still be the wrong Edwin as I am unable to see in the index search who the parents are of this individual.

Kind Regards,

Duncan Bennie

[Duncan Bennie]

Here is the index search:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=CEN_1840&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-c&gsfn=Edwin&gsfn_x=1&gsln=Abbott&gsln_x=1&msbdy=1838&msbdy_x=1&cpxt=1&uidh=ml6&msbdp=2&cp=11&so=2

[lizdb]

This one is the closest in age to the one you seek-

1841
Gorton? Place, Marylebone
Edwin 33 schoolmaster y
Jane 3
Elizabeth 7
Ann 4
Edwin 2
Edward 11 months


But this one is better for location
1841
East side of Witton Rd, St George Hanover Sq
James 37 musician
Elizabeth 35
Edwin 6
Henry 5
James 3


And neither appear to be with parents called Arthur and Sarah, though relationships are not specified on 1841

[Duncan Bennie]

This one is the closest in age to the one you seek-

1841
Gorton? Place, Marylebone
Edwin 33 schoolmaster y
Jane 3
Elizabeth 7
Ann 4
Edwin 2
Edward 11 months


But this one is better for location
1841
East side of Witton Rd, St George Hanover Sq
James 37 musician
Elizabeth 35
Edwin 6
Henry 5
James 3


And neither appear to be with parents called Arthur and Sarah, though relationships are not specified on 1841

Thank you appreciate the look up  , it appears to be a dead end then so will have to look at other avenues

Duncan

[lizdb]

Where have you already found "your" Edwin, and what is the source of his parents names?

[Duncan Bennie]

Where have you already found "your" Edwin, and what is the source of his parents names?

Marriage record lists him as the son of an Arthur Abbott. Ah but there is the problem, looking at the record again, it lists him as 20 at the time of his marriage in 1854, that would put d.o.b. at 1834, not 1838

[lizdb]

Heres all the details from the marriage

26 Feb 1854
St John, Notting Hill
Edwin Abbott 20 , bachelor, builder, of 4 Portobello Lane, father Arthur Abbott builder
To Sarah Jane Sorrell 20 spinster also of 4 Portobello Lane father George Sorrell, farmer
Witnesses William and Ann Felstead

This looks like Edwin in 1851-
HO 107
Broad Street, Westminster
Arthur Abbott  51 Master bricklayer employing 7 men bnChristchurch, Hants
Eliza 51 wife bn Christchurch Hants
Arthur 23 bricklayer bn Berkshire
Charlotte 21 bn St Pancras
William 18 bn St P
Sarah 16 bn St P
George 14 bn Westminster
Edwin 12 bn Westminster St James
Alfred 10 bn Westminster
Priscilla 8 bn Westminster

So it looks as if his mother was Eliza, not Sarah

[lizdb]

Though it looks as if Eliza could be a second wife?

Marriage
11 April 1850
All Souls Langham place
Arthur Abbott full age, widower, builder, of All Souls, father Thomas Abbott deceased builder
To
Eliza Foreman full age widow , of "District", father John Sanders deceased.

Maybe some of the children were Eliza's and thus under Foreman in previous records.

Where did you get that Edwins mum was Sarah from?

[lizdb]

Is this Arthurs first marriage?

3rd Jan 1825
St Pancras
Arthur Abott (sic) to Sarah Jenkins.
He a bachelor, she a spinster. Witnesses Richard Jenkins and MA Jenkins

I havent compared Arthurs signature to the 1850 marriage.

 Next question is - when did Sarah die?

I cant see any of the famiily in  1841, despite all the children to try, so am wondering if they got missed or if part of census is missing.