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Offline aghadowey

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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 December 13 11:26 GMT (UK) »
The marriage certificate of Bernard & Kate will give you his residence at time of marriage* and father's name and occupation.
* this might, or might not, tie in with the 1911 census record I posted earlier
Mary Ann's birth certificate will also pin down the family's residence.

" have a couple of accounts of Bernard's age and his age varies wildly between the two, I took a best fit :-)"
Since civil registration of births started in 1864 it's important to know if he could have been born before this date (in which case there will be no birth certificate).

Marriage of Patrick Gorman, son of Edward, & Ellen Burns, daughter of Terence (1867)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ1-5TZ

Children of Patrick/Patt Gorman & Ellen Burns/Byrnes/Byrne-
Patt (1868) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F548-PP1
Mary Ann (1869) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5M3-DX8
? Ellen (1872) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGHD-WKM
Eliza (1875) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPBR-FLZ
Catherine (1876) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP7Z-PMN
Bridget (1876) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP7Z-PM6
Bernard (1877) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG26-GNR
Terence (1879) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPTF-T6T
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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 December 13 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Irish Genealogy shows
Eveleen Johanna Augustine Enright
born 18 Sep 1887 6 Williams Place,Dublin
 
Parents
Thomas Enright and Ellen Murphy
Eveleen Enright B.A. at no 3 Mullaghmonaghan,Monaghan 1911 schoolteacher 23. 1901?
Parents at 58 Merrion Rd 1901
12 Pembroke Rd 1911 ,Thomas born Limerick ,Ellen born Kildare

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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 December 13 16:32 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 December 13 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks for all that  ;D
I've added all the new bits into my tree. It seems Mary Ann had even more Aunts and Uncles than I thought!
Not sure if the Eveleen bit is just a 'wild goose chase' but, I found it interesting when I was hunting and it fits with the theory that Mary Ann may have had family in the school at Monaghan.
The mystery continues...
Nolan, Donohoe, O'Neill, McNally, O'Reilly


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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 14 December 13 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Let us know if there's any other details you want to try an follow up here  :)
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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 14 December 13 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks aghadowey, I was wondering which site you used to find all those baptism certs with such apparent ease. I am paying for one (not sure if I am allowed to mention names) and it didn't find any of those, all I had were the census records. It has found them now when I have put the exact dates in using your info but, that kind of defeats the point  :-\
Also if you are ever on the Longford forum I have a mystery there that I could use some help with too (to be posted in the near future).
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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 14 December 13 18:38 GMT (UK) »
The records for the Gorman children that I posted were extracted birth records from FamilySearch site  which is free. I did a parent search (advanced search option at www.familysearch.org) and put in only name of father & mother.
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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 15 December 13 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Interesting house and building return for Mullaghmonaghan.
no 1 convent  head Mother M A Farrell
no 2 Industrial school head Mother M A Farrell
no 3 Boarding school head Mother M A Farrell
so which did Mary Anne go to,boarding would suggest fee paying.

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Re: Sent to a convent in Monaghan, why?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 December 13 19:05 GMT (UK) »
This looks a likely 1901 return ages a bit off with 1911
House no 9 in Urbal,Kill,Cavan
Anne Donohoe mother,widow age 70
John 35
Bernard 30
Owen 40 married to Margaret Arkins ,Jan Mar 1893,Granard,vol 3 page 182,children as follows
Charles 7
Mary Anne 5
Peter 3
Owen 1
by 1911 Owen senior and junior deceased,his wife Margaret still at Urbal but with extra child Julia age 15
1901 census no 6 lisnadaragh,Kilgolagh,Cavan
Julia Arkins 60
Julia Donohoe age 6.