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Need help finding military number/record
« on: Wednesday 24 September 14 17:52 BST (UK) »
I found my gg-grandfather on the 1871 census:

James Aldridge (18yrs: b. abt 1853 Hurstpierpoint, Sussex)
Soldier Occupant (Soldier)
Gunner, Royal Artillery
Artillery Barracks, South Shoebury, Essex.

I've done a quick search for military records, with no luck.  Where is the best place to search for his military number and any records?

Would be so grateful for any help!
Rogers: Sussex
Sanders/Saunders: Brenchley, Kent
Hales: Navenby, Lincs
Lidbetter: Sussex
Burns: Birmingham/Weston-super-Mare
Gray/Stocks: Weston-super-Mare
Hayden
Bubb: Kent
Ward: Notts

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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 17:59 BST (UK) »
I found my gg-grandfather on the 1871 census:

James Aldridge (18yrs, b.abt 1853, Hurstpierpoint, Sussex)
Soldier Occupant (Soldier) - Artillery Barracks, South Shoebury, Essex. Gunner, Royal Artillery.

Where is the best place to search for his military number and any records (a basic search has not been successful)?

Would be very grateful for any help.
Rogers: Sussex
Sanders/Saunders: Brenchley, Kent
Hales: Navenby, Lincs
Lidbetter: Sussex
Burns: Birmingham/Weston-super-Mare
Gray/Stocks: Weston-super-Mare
Hayden
Bubb: Kent
Ward: Notts

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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 18:29 BST (UK) »
I did a search of multiple sites and found his parents on a tree as William Aldridge and Sophia French. Tried for William/Sophia's marriage no luck! Nothing after Census of 1871. Very disappointing. Going to take a nap.

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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 19:56 BST (UK) »
Have you tried to search for Military records on find my Past ?


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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 21:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie, 

thanks for your suggestion, but I don't have a subscription to FindMyPast. 

( Apologies: Had trouble loading this as a New Topic and ended up with two separate postings - have asked a Moderator to delete one of them as I can't do that myself)

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Rogers: Sussex
Sanders/Saunders: Brenchley, Kent
Hales: Navenby, Lincs
Lidbetter: Sussex
Burns: Birmingham/Weston-super-Mare
Gray/Stocks: Weston-super-Mare
Hayden
Bubb: Kent
Ward: Notts

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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 21:41 BST (UK) »
Barry, thanks for your reply (& attempt at finding out about James's heritage).

James Aldridge was born 1853 Hurstpierpoint. On the 1861 census he is shown living there with head of house William and wife Sophia, but the ages suggest he was their grandson.  I have reason to believe his mother was their daughter Ellen (b. abt 1831), who emigrated to the US in 1853.

He changed his name frequently, so this has proven to be more than a challenge in my research.

His first-born son was my great-grandfather, born Oldham 1874. On the birth certificate James Aldridge calls himself HENRY JAMES HAYDEN and named his son the same. (The mother is named as Martha Caroline formerly Wilkinson b. Middx, but I can't find a marriage for them. She marries someone else in 1883 & calls herself 'Spinster; I don't believe she and James Aldridge ever married). In 1881 he is calling himself HENRY HART (when living with his family in Brighton) and in 1891 he is living in Wales with his two sons and calling himself HENRY JAMES ALDRIDGE. In1901 he is in Knaphill, Woking, again under the name HENRY J ALDRIDGE. It appears he died between 1901 and 1903, but I haven't found a death for him yet.

The name changes certainly don't help, but having found him on the 1871 census as a Soldier, I wondered where I might find his military number and records - no luck so far with a quick search on Ancestry and was hoping to narrow down the field a bit!

Talk in the family suggested my great-grandfather was an army deserter (he served as a Painter for the Royal Engineers at Home from 1915-17 aged 39-41yrs), but records show he was discharged medically unfit for service. My thought is that his father James Aldridge/Henry James Hayden was the actual deserter - did he and Martha run off to Oldham for the birth of their first son, and is that why he changed his name?




Rogers: Sussex
Sanders/Saunders: Brenchley, Kent
Hales: Navenby, Lincs
Lidbetter: Sussex
Burns: Birmingham/Weston-super-Mare
Gray/Stocks: Weston-super-Mare
Hayden
Bubb: Kent
Ward: Notts

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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 September 14 02:50 BST (UK) »
His service record does not appear to be on Findmypast - suggesting he did not receive a pension. So he may have been a deserter.

The army knew South Shoebury as Shoeburyness. I should be able to discover which batteries were there in 1871. You can then research the musters which are in the National Archives. These also acted as paybooks and will tell you what happened to him.

Ken

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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 September 14 08:57 BST (UK) »
Hi you don't need to have a subscription I'm sure you can pay and view think it used to be about £6.00 ? :)

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Re: Need help finding military number/record
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 September 14 14:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Could this be him?

James H. Aldridge, 2283, 3rd. London Regiment, London Volunteer Soldiers. That's all 'find my past' has on him, however that was taken from service records so I guess they are available, if that is your

Regards,

Carol
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