Author Topic: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk  (Read 9177 times)

Offline loobylooayr

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,322
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 March 14 21:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,
Yes I don't think getting to the bottom of this will be easy :).
Just remember the names recorded on the Death certificate have been given to the Registar by the informant of Hugh's death. This info is only as good as the knowledge/memory of that person.
Margaret Roney (she's Rooney by 1871 :) ) could be a widow, she could hve been married to a John Baillie and then again she may never have married and is just calling herself a widow. And as you said earlier - she could have been either an employer or fellow workmate of Hugh's.

Offline loobylooayr

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,322
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 March 14 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Who does Hugh name as his parents on his marriage cert in 1862? That info would be more reliable than the death cert as Hugh would provide it himself.

Offline YO8

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 70
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 March 14 21:39 GMT (UK) »
This is more or less my thoughts, given at the time information was provided, it could well be pronunciations and the way they have been written, then interpreted by the transcriber of the records, it does make the search interesting

Offline YO8

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 70
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 March 14 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Hugh Baillie married Margaret McChesney on 03feb1862 in Dailly his parents were John Baillie occupation labourer deceased and Margaret Baillie nee Rollie


Offline loobylooayr

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,322
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 March 14 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Right so Hugh gave those names and declared his father as deceased and not his mother.
Of course Margaret Baillie/ Rollie could have returned to using her maiden name when widowed , that was common practice at that time - if she ever used her married name in the first place.
Also if Hugh had been illegitimate, he may have been known by his father's name.



Offline YO8

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 70
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 01 March 14 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Looks like the search continues using Rollie / Roney etc in Stoneykirk in mid 1820's

Offline loobylooayr

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,322
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 01 March 14 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Yes looks like it ;D.
Plus it looks like Margaret's daughter Margaret Sproat/Sprott never married. So the name Sproat/Sprott was probably her natural father's. If the family were Church of Scotland there is a chance Margaret snr. was called up before the Kirk Session because of her misdemeanors (if she was pregnant outside marriage) and there may be a record of this in the Kirk Session Minutes.
Looby :)

Offline YO8

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 70
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 01 March 14 22:42 GMT (UK) »
The search continues I also concluded Margaret Sproat never married! I found a death cert for a Margaret Sproat in Stoneykirk in 1896 the informant was  W Johnstone (son) fathers name - Sproat farmer and mother - Sproat nee Roney. confusing or what?

Offline loobylooayr

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,322
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Information for Hugh Baillie Born abt 1825 in Stoneykirk
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 March 14 23:08 GMT (UK) »
It's a bit of a tangled web.
Good luck with your search.
Looby :)