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Re: sir William St Le(d)ger
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 October 12 12:44 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to you all for taking an interest in my query.  Firstly, as already posted, it should have been under Cornwall and not Devon.  The purpose of my post was to investigate the connection between Sir William St Ledger and the Pascoe Family of Falmouth.  My grandmother Amelia Jane Pascoe, whose family came from Falmouth (owned the Victory Inn), visited the UK with her husband in 1912 during which time frequent mention was made in her travel diary of Sir William ('cousin Willie') St Ledger, his wife Fanny and son (John) and daughter.  Willie, who reportedly resided in Gravesend also seemed to have been in command of a customs boat.  Their was also a Percy St L but any relationship was not mentioned in the diary.  From replies so far it seems that Willie was born in 1866, the son of James St L and Fanny Pascoe.  My gmother, Amelia Jane Pascoe's father Henry was born in Falmouth in 1835 and Amelia was born in Australia in 1872. 
  At present I am not sure where Fanny fits in and will need to do some work.  It may be that the term 'cousin' was being used loosely, as was often the custom. 
Many thanks,   Cec

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Re: sir William St Le(d)ger
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 28 October 12 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Again, I would strongly recommend that you contact the Ancestry users who have corrected these people's names in the various censuses.

In 1861, Fanny Pascoe, aged 20, a schoolmistress, is a niece in the household of Nicholas and Mary Oates in Faversham, Kent; Nicholas is an Asst In [something] Office Customs. Someone has corrected all of their birthplaces to Cornwall from Canada (as mistranscribed by Ancestry). In 1851 and 1841 she is in Falmouth, daughter of Henry, a warehouseman, and Grace. Henry was born about 1800 in Budock.

I can't identify your Henry 1835 in censuses to see who his parents were. If you don't know, you can browse Falmouth baptism images here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20277-24855-63?cc=1769414&wc=MMVH-JW9:n497789741
England, Cornwall Parish Registers, 1538-2010 - Cornwall - Falmouth - Baptisms, 1825-1839

The censuses, familysearch and the OPC site show lots of Henry Pascoes born c1835, but none in Falmouth specifically except for a Thomas Henry 1835 son of Nicholas and Emily. No idea who owned the Victory Inn or when, so can't look any further ...
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: sir William St Le(d)ger
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 28 October 12 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Presumably the canonized Ledger became the patron saint of accountants; whilst the canonized Leger became the patron saint of turf accountants? ::)

Don't get them muddled; the St. Legers who founded the famous horse race are often confused with the St. Ledgers often by people who should know better!
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Re: sir William St Le(d)ger
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 28 September 14 19:07 BST (UK) »
My husband stumbled across this post when he googled his own name, John St Ledger! William was the son of James St Ledger (Master Mariner from Waterford, Ireland) and Fanny Pascoe who ran the Victory Inn in Falmouth. They married under Catholic orders at King Charles the Martyr Church (CofE) Falmouth. I can't remember the year but I think that it was Christmas Day or Eve. We believe that he probably stayed at the Inn while in Falmouth. They had 2 sons, William and James and six or seven daughters. William went to sea with his father, then joined the customs service and went to live in Gravesend. He was in Falmouth when a new customs vessel, The Vigilant, was launched having been built in the town. He was 2nd in command for some time, then became Commander of the vessel. It was quite a famous ship.
http://www.medwaymaritimetrust.org.uk/vigilant/pages/historyNEW.htm
There is a photo of him on this link;

http://www.medwaymaritimetrust.org.uk/vigilant/history/history-Pages/Image4.html

Here are some other links

Baptism record
http://www.penrynopc.co.uk/Wesleyan%20Baps%201866-71.html

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32941/supplement/4416/data.pdf

http://hm-waterguard.org.uk/People-Colleagues%20-%20CVs%20-%20S.htm
WILLIAM HENRY St. LEDGER MBE ISO
1892-1899 Boatman London
1899-1928 Cutters
HMRC Cutter service
1899-1917    First Mate HMRC Vigilant
1917-1928       Commander HMRC Vigilant

A John St Ledger is mentioned as having died in the Great War and buried at Gravesend
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=201807


Although there is mention of a son, John, he is not remembered by relatives I have spoken to and could have died in the Great War, details above. William had two daughters so there would be no other St Ledgers in Gravesend. My father-in-law, son of his brother, James, was named after him, though went by the name of Jack.
Williams nephew, the late Desmond St Ledger McCarthy, told us a number of times that he was offered a knighthood, but declined. My sister-in-law has more details and photos of the family, including one of Fanny (nee Pascoe) surrounded by her offspring, holding a photo of her late husband.