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Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« on: Tuesday 02 November 10 12:15 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for Louise Adele Pope (born 1860) who was charged with robbery in January 1898 and may have been in Aylesbury Prison from that date.  Is there a record of prisoners available and does the 1901 England Census record prisoners?  (Louise's son Henry is recorded in the 1901 Census as a boarder with the Ricketts family in Aylesbury).
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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 November 10 18:07 GMT (UK) »
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does the 1901 England Census record prisoners?

Yes it does - where was she born and was Pope her married name or her maiden name
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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 November 10 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Louise Adele Atkinson born 9 August 1860 in Appley.  Married 1886 to Henry Pope and living in the Newington/Lambeth districts of London. 2 children (Henry Ward (1887) and Louise Adele (1888).  I am guessing that she could still be in prison by the 1901 Census, and Aylesbury seems like a good bet, but her incarceration in other institutions could also be likely.  Otherwise, Louise is nowhere else (that I can see at least) in that Census.
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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 November 10 23:11 GMT (UK) »
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Louise Adele Atkinson born 9 August 1860 in Appley

1891 shows Appleby Westmorland

Henry and daughter Louisa A are still in Newington in 1901 but I can't find Louisa.  Henry is shown as married

RG13 Piece 385 Folio 110 Page 17
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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 November 10 03:48 GMT (UK) »
Yes.  Henry (father) and Louise Adele (daughter) are still living together by the 1911 census and Henry still recorded as 'married' but still no Louise Adele (wife/mother) showing up anywhere in that census.  I am now wondering whether it is possible to access the court/criminal record somewhere ...this could give a clue to where Louise A. ended up and for how long. 
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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 November 10 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I can't be of much help, but there are a few records surviving for Aylesbury Prison and even some photo's of the inmates at The Centre For Buckinghamshire Studies.

http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/sites/bcc/archives/ea_libprisoners.page

Forgot to mention, that the older prison was behind the old Courthouse at the bottom of the Market Square.

Worth a look around.

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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 November 10 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Prison registers should have information about inmates.  They usually give a detailed description of appearance and information about the crime, trial and prisoner's behaviour etc.

Additionally quarterly registers at The National Archives give basic details about prisoners' crimes, and their health.
Chowns in Buckinghamshire
Broad, Eplett & Pope in St Ervan/St Columb Major, Cornwall
Browning & Moore in Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
Emms, Mealing & Purvey in Cotswolds, Gloucestershire
Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham in Norfolk
Higho in London
Matthews & Nash in Whichford, Warwickshire
Smoothy, Willsher in Coggeshall & Chelmsford, Essex

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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 November 10 17:59 GMT (UK) »
It's possible that she changed her name when she was released from prison.  You say she was charged in 1898 - do you know that she was convicted?
Chowns in Buckinghamshire
Broad, Eplett & Pope in St Ervan/St Columb Major, Cornwall
Browning & Moore in Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
Emms, Mealing & Purvey in Cotswolds, Gloucestershire
Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham in Norfolk
Higho in London
Matthews & Nash in Whichford, Warwickshire
Smoothy, Willsher in Coggeshall & Chelmsford, Essex

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Re: Aylesbury Prison 1898-1908
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 10:38 GMT (UK) »
It could be possible that Louise Adele Pope changed her name upon release. An 1898 newspaper reported that she was charged on remand on 2 January 1898 at Lambeth Police Court for stealing goods from husband Henry.  Are those court records available for viewing? I also understand that people in institutions were recorded in the 1911 census by their initials.  There is an 'L.A.P.' (aged 50, housewife) recorded in that Census for the County Surrey, Reg. District Epsom (#31), Subdistrict Carshalton (#1). Age and initials are right.
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