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James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« on: Tuesday 18 February 14 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Im trying to find any information on James Black ,  I know he married Helen Robertson and that he was a merchant seaman .
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Re: James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 February 14 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Did he marry in Fife?

Who were their children - names/birthyears etc

If you have the family on a census - can you please give details

When did he die?
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Re: James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Im not sure about where they married . Cant find any death record , Children that i know about Isabella born 1816 married Robert Hutchison  , John born 1827 married Margaret Carmicheal who was born Kinglassie 1823 found them on 1871 census living in Kinghorn , Richard born Abottshall 1837 married Georgina Rutherford born in Tranent they married in Townhill 1880 , Im sure there were more children in this family but cant find any records , The 1851 census for Cowan street Kirkcaldy shows Helen Black living with her married daughter Isabella and her husband Robert, Also shows her sons John age 24 and Richard age 14 .
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Re: James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 February 14 22:24 GMT (UK) »
1841 census for Abbotshall - all born Fife

High St Linkstown

Hellen/Helen Black 45
Elizabeth 26
Ann  20
John  16
William  14
Robert  7
Richard   4
Ann    3 Months
Isabella Ramsay   3 Months
Abbotshall ED 7 Page 7 Line 885

Where did you get the info from that James Black was b 1792 Kinglassie
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Re: James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 February 14 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Birth year 1892 for James Black was passed on to me by someone researching the Hutchison family they never gave me anything in way of cert so might not be correct .

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Re: James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 February 14 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Does all your info come from the same source (ie) that James Black married Helen Robertson and had the children shown on the 1841 census?

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Richard born Abottshall 1837 married Georgina Rutherford born in Tranent they married in Townhill 1880 ,

The 1881 shows that Richard was b 1843 Kircaldy

I think you need to look at the info in closer detail as it is often inadvisable to depend on other peoples research

Which of the children are you descended from?   
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Re: James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 February 14 01:13 GMT (UK) »
The information i have regarding birth year for James Black was passed on to me by someone else so i understand what your saying , But other information i have is correct as i have managed to get copies of certificates to confirm , Marriage record shows Richard Black as being age 38 when he married Georgina Rutherford 28th Dec 1880 Townhill Georgina was aged 28 so im thinking he made himself younger for that reason , I have copy of his death cert 23 March 1901 age 64 which ties in with his birth year 1837 . Both certs show James Black and Helen Robertson as his parents both deceased in his marriage cert , My connection with Richard Black is that he was my grt Grandfather 

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Re: James Black born 1792 Kinglassie fife scotland
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 February 14 11:41 GMT (UK) »
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Richard born Abottshall 1837 married Georgina Rutherford born in Tranent they married in Townhill 1880 ,

Georgina was either previously married or had an illegitimate child who was living with her & Richard in 1891

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