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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 October 14 23:32 GMT (UK) »
I dident think that death was correct but decided to mention it anyway
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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 October 14 23:42 GMT (UK) »
Same tree gives Elizabeth Ann born 1847 in Cockermouth bap 2nd January 1848 Cockermouth

1861 Northallerton.................RG 9 Piece/ 3662/ Folio/ 105/ Page/ 23

1871 Middlesborough ...............RG10/ Piece/ 4898/ Folio 7 Page/ 9

Same family tree gives Wm Thos, born Hamburg Germany

This family certainly moved around, what was Roberts occupation?
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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 October 14 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1871 census William T Barnett is lodging with brother Charles, gives his birth c1853 in Hamburg Germany.

They could have been in Germany around 1851.

claire

 :) I do like to see a census ref for Charles/William T and Elizabeth
RG10/4898/7/9
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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 October 14 23:52 GMT (UK) »
Other trees do confirm the info I posted, they give Mary's father as John Oliver b 1795 but no mother  :(

 Where do the other census's give her birth  ???

Cant find her birth on FreeReg
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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #13 on: Friday 31 October 14 00:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Sorry Keyboard ~ bit of an eager beaver  :)

1861 ~ William Tom living with his Aunt and Uncle in Egglestone Durham, with maybe a possible sibling

John Robert Barnett 14 scholar bn Yorks. Thirsk

Class HO107,  Piece 2387,  Folio 665,  Page 3.

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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #14 on: Friday 31 October 14 00:21 GMT (UK) »
I,m wondering  if Mary's mother died in childbirth :-\

Checking the 1841 census there are a couple of  possible John Oliver's born around the right age born in Yorkshire assuming that's right.

One with wife and 6 children in Pocklington

One living on his own in Old Malton an Ag Lab

But of course John Oliver may have been deceased by then.
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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #15 on: Friday 31 October 14 00:29 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of a John Oliver Sept q 1837 in Thirsk  24 - 266... that's where Mary married in 1840

The death certificate might yield some clue as to who his wife was if the poster sent for it.

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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #16 on: Friday 31 October 14 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Patrish, Keyboard86 and claire,t for your interest, researches and info/suggestions. Very much appreciated and I will investigate them.

Marriage Cert. says Father, John was a labourer and deceased at time of marriage.  Husband Robert was a Carrier by trade so that might account for wanderings to Germany and elsewhere?

Thanks again all for your help, it has given me some useful leads.

Regards to All 3,

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Re: Mary Oliver Circa 1821
« Reply #17 on: Friday 31 October 14 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Been trying get anything on Mary Oliver or her father John without much success but I have found this on FreeReg , 5 years out according to the Ancestry trees but  I think worth posting for reference,   Ainderby Steeple is just 3 miles WSW of Northallerton and mothers name is Mary whom she could well have been named after.  :-\ couldent find a marriage though.  :(


County.....   North Riding YKS
Place   Ainderby Steeple
Church.....   St Helen Pr
RegisterNumber   
DateOfBirth   
BaptismDate.....   01 Jun 1790
Forename   John
Sex   M
FatherForename........   John
MotherForename.......   Mary
FatherSurname   OLIVER
MotherSurname   
Abode.......   Morton
FatherOccupation      

FileNumber   2636

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