Who's the dad of George CARTER 1831 Paulton

[astley7]

I have been to the RO but no luck trying to find The Father of George Carter B 1831 Paulton Married Mary Ann Badger Merthyr Tydfil  It states Jacob Carter as his father but which one ? so many around the same time and same names. Any information gladly recieved. Thanks for all that helped in my last posting. help outstanding.
Best wishes
Lisa

[Necromancer]

There's 2 Georges* c1829-1831 b Paulton with Fathers Jacob and BOTH are Coal Miners .... What occupation is shown on the Marriage Cert, does it match ?

The 1831 chap would seem the best bet, is his age consistant throughout the source records you have ?

Could try following the other one to check later events ?



* Source 1841 Census

[krisesjoint]

Hi Lisa,

Here are the two marriages

CARTER Jacob = HOOK Martha 27 Feb 1814 Paulton
CARTER Jacob = GULLIFORD Sarah 25 Dec 1826 Paulton

Both Georges are in Paulton in 1851. (seems little between them in age at this time)  Looks like the other George is in Paulton in 1871. (Wife Mary SNOOK)  He has a daughter Martha - perhaps a clue.

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

To avoid any duplication, here is the Link to Lisa's other Carter thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,401090.0.html

Kris 

[Trees]

past master where have you found a son of jacob 1831???
I have one bap Dec 25 and one bap Dec 30 both in 1827
I have one in 1831 son of john and Amy nee Bull follow the main chase on the other topic
Both Jacobs had daughters called Martha!! so its not surprising that both Georges do too neither appear to have a Sarah
Trees

[RayDen]

Pastmaster

Am I right in thinking that your source for the 1831 birth is the 1841 census?

On the 1841 census Jacob/Sarah's George is shown as 10 years old giving an 1831 birth, however he was baptised 25 Dec 1827.

Ray

[Laura75]

I've just come across all this information and it's both interesting and highly confusing.

Jacob CARTER = Sarah GULLIFORD are my third great grandparents.

I'm trying to find his parents and was hoping that I'd find a connection using his other children. Turns out that all the George Carters and the second Jacob Carter have made it very tricky to clear up.

Jacob and Sarah had four children, George, Martha, Ann and Mary.

Mary is my second great grandmother.
Ann didn't marry (to the best of my knowledge)
Martha married James Tucker, no children

George was the only other one to have children, and therefore, hopefully, descendants with information on the family.

But I really can't work out if all the children I've given him are the correct ones. As far as I can tell, everyone here is researching the son of Jacob and Martha HOOK.

Any thoughts or other leads? Thank you.

[Trees]

Oh dear I had Jacob and Sarah Guiliford having 7 children I think we need to consolidate information
I have:
Jacob Carter born about 1801 Paulton m Sarah Guiliford Christmas Day 1826
137   25 Dec 1826
   Jacob   CARTER      otp   Bachelor
   Sarah   GULLIFORD   otp   Spinster
Wits:   Benjamin   BRIMBLE   John   ASHMAN   Banns; additional witness: Charles SYMES Clerk
1841 census HO107 / 939 / 18 fo51 p11
with
George      10
Ruth      10   
Sarah      7   
Martha      1   
Mary      3   

1851  HO107/1939 fo165 p48
with
George 23   
Mary    14    
Martha 10    
Ann 6   

1861 RG9 / 1679 fo 171 p21 sch 112
Buried:
 Jacob Carter buried July 11th 1868 Age 69 years

Children in Paulton
GEORGE
850   25 Dec 1827   George   M   Jacob   Sarah   CARTER      Paulton   Collier
possible marriage
CARTER George  SNOOK Mary Camerton, St Peter Bath C66/1/257

HENRY
No baptism found but this marriage sugests Henry was alp a son
114   25 Dec 1848
   Henry   CARTER   full age   Bachelor   Collier   Paulton   Jacob   CARTER   Collier
   Keziah   DANDO   20   Spinster      Paulton   Thomas   DANDO   Collier
Wits:   Jacob   CARTER      Elizabeth   MAGGS

RUTH
1045   26 Dec 1830   Ruth   F   Jacob   Sarah   CARTER   Paulton   Collier
209   22 May 1860
   Thomas   HEW   full age      Bachelor   Mason   Paulton   Thomas   HEW   Pensioner
   Ruth   CARTER   full age      Spinster      Paulton   Jacob   CARTER   Collier
Wits:   William   INGS   Mary   CARTER      Banns
SARAH
1302   25 Dec 1834   Sarah   F   Jacob   Sarah   CARTER   Paulton   Collier

MARY
1538   04 Nov 1838   Mary   F   Jacob   Sarah   CARTER   Paulton   Collier

MARTHA
28   Sep 1840   Martha   -   Jacob   Sarah   CARTER   Paulton   Collier

Ann
283   28 Jul 1844   Anne   F   Jacob   Sarah   CARTER   Paulton   Collier

1881 Sarah is with her daughter Ruth RG11/2427 fo157 p17 she died in Litton. Sarah Carter Litton formerly Paulton buried December 23rd 1884 Age 82 Years

[RayDen]

Hi Laura

Welcome to Rootschat.  Ah the Carters of Paulton!!!  It is very difficult to get any real firm evidence on the Carters particularly the Jacob/Sarah & Jacob/Martha lines.  My line is through the George Carter who married Mary Ann Badger in 1861 in Neath.  After some intense investigation I eventually decided that this George was more probably from the Jacob/Martha Hook line rather than the Jacob/Sarah Gulliford line.  My decision came from a considered liklihood rather than positive evidence.

My reasoning to support the Jacob/Martha line is:

In 1861 census  the George born to Jacob/Sarah was living with his parents (name shown as Caster rather than Carter) in Bloomfield, Paulton.

However I just feel that the George who married Mary Ann Badger would have been in Wales at that time.  Son John Henry was born 1 May 1862 so must have been concieved about August 1861 (in Wales) where Mary Ann was living and where George and Mary Ann were married October (in Neath).

John Henry was born in Withy Mills Paulton (june 1862, I have the certificate).  Withy Mills was where George's Father (jacob) & brother Henry were living with married sister Keziah in 1861.

I think the birth of John Henry in Withy Mills and a brother of George being named Henry leant me towards the Jacob/Martha line.

None of George/Mary Ann's children were named Sarah and the only Martha was a Mary Martha born in 1874.

There are numerous forums on Rootschat about the Carters of Paulton.

Hope this is of help

Ray