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Confusion concerning census relations
« on: Sunday 28 September 14 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hello

William H Lacey was born in 1873, this is him and his family in 1881, 1891 and 1901.

1881

Head   John Sheppard   27
Wife   Mary Sheppard   28
Son   Henry Sheppard   6
Daughter   Reziah Sheppard   4
Daughter   Elizabeth Sheppard   2
Daughter   Margrate Sheppard   2 months
Son-in-Law   Sarah Lacey   30
Nephew   William H Lacey   8
Niece   Rosa Lacey    4

1891

Wife   Sarah Farthing   39
Step-son   William H Lacey   18
Step-daughter   Rosa Lacey   14
Daughter   Emily A Farthing   2
Daughter   Eliz J Farthing   1 month
Nephew
   William Farthing   19
Lodger   William Watts   25

1901

Head   William Lacey   28
Wife   Charlotte Lacey   25
Daughter   Emily A Lacey   2
Daughter   Annie Lacey   8 months

Concerning the 1881 and 1891 census, I am confused concerning the relationships. Both censuses do not show any parents for William, but do mention a Sarah Farthing, a step mother and a John Sheppard, an uncle, which I assume means William and Rosa's mother was a sister of his.

Looking at the marriages, I cannot find a marriage between a Sarah Farthing and a man with the surname Lacey.

I am trying to look for William and Rosa's parents, any help in clearing up this confusion will be appreciated

my thanks

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Re: Confusion concerning census relations
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:05 BST (UK) »
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Re: Confusion concerning census relations
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:10 BST (UK) »
In 1881 Sarah Lacey is transcribed as the daughter-in-law (but image shows s-in-law - as JJen pointed out later) and a widow.  Free BMD show a marriage in December 1881 of Sarah Lacey to Uriah Farthing - Pontypool - 11a 197.
William and Rosa Lacey are the children of Sarah Lacey.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:11 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image for the 1881 Sarah is recorded as S in law, therefore possibly sister in law.

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:16 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image for the 1881 Sarah is recorded as S in law, therefore possibly sister in law.

JJ

Yes, it does look like that on the image. Anc have transcribed her as daughter-in-law.  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:21 BST (UK) »
1891 - Emily A Hall is Emily Farthing on the image - Probably Emily Farthing - Bedwelty - 11a 65 - Dec 1888.
Eley is also marked as Eley Fathing on the image.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:24 BST (UK) »
Eley Hall is probably Eliz Jane Farthing born June 1891 - Bedwelty - 11a 78
Had to read but mis-transcribed on anc.
Sarah Hall is Sarah Farthing on the image. She is in a different household to Charles Hall.
Sarah resides 18 Club Row.  Charles Hall resides 17 Club Row  ::)

You need to check those images Simon. Mistakes are made. You could have worked it all out for yourself had you done that.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:34 BST (UK) »
Here is Sarah and Emily Farthing with Uriah on the 1901 census
 
Uriah Farthing  57
Sarah Farthing  49
Emily A Farthing  12
Hugh Farthing  8

RG13 Piece 4934 Folio 117 Page 9.

Hugh Farthing - Bedwelty - Q3 1892 - 11a 84

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 September 14 17:38 BST (UK) »
thank you

sorry I didn't correct the mistranslations. I knew there were some before I posted, but forgot to change the census as they should have been

So William's parents were Uriah Farthing and Sarah Lacey, but they adopted their mother's surname?

I checked free bmd and couldn't find a death for Uriah