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Madeley Lodge 1824
« on: Wednesday 30 April 14 22:54 BST (UK) »
Sarah Sheward aged 42 was buried in 1824. Her address was Madeley Lodge. She was a married woman (husband Thomas was an ag lab.). She had 6 children, the youngest were twins aged 2. Can anyone tell me anything about Madeley Lodge? It sounds a bit posh unless it was some kind of estate cottage
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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 May 14 00:29 BST (UK) »
There is a house in the field next to the beeches hospital called the lodge. we always knew the field as the lodge field and when it was built whole area was madeley.

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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 May 14 07:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you Madeley. Can you give me an idea where it is, more closely? I have OS maps of the area. Is the hospital a new one or private?
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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 May 14 08:19 BST (UK) »
I have now found the Local History Group work on the buildings of the Beeches Hospital, former Union Workhouse built to replace the earlier Union Workhouse. Does anyone know if the former Parish Poorhouse was on the site in 1824 when Sarah died there? Has anyone got maps showing it or does it show on the Tithe map if there was one for Madeley? That sounds more suitable for the death of an agreement lab, though 1824 seems a bit early. Sarah was my 3 x great grandmother.
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Cox, Nottingham, Maidenhead, West London
Donne, Carmarthen London & Kent
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Newcomb, Corby, Lincs, Southwark, Clerkenwell
Orange Normandy East London
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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 May 14 20:08 BST (UK) »
The previous workhouse before the Beeches was on Belmont road/Hodge bower that building is still there but its private houses now. The lodge house is also more than one house but stands on its own in the field. if you go on google earth put in post code TF7 5JR that will almost take you to the Beeches hospital you just have to scroll to the left and the beeches is there, just on from the beeches still going left is the lodge.

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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 May 14 21:35 BST (UK) »
There's information re the workhouse here: http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Madeley/
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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 May 14 16:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks Garrad. I had already looked at the superb Peter Higginbotham site, where I had discovered that there was no reference to the buiildings which were there before the "Pavilion" type built in 1867, except that they were demolished. However, there were no Union Workhouses before the Poor Law Amendment Act of (O Level History 1957!) of 1834 or 5, only a wide variety of individual Parish Poorhouses and Workhouses. I need someone with access to a decent scale map of anywhere between about 1820 to 1840+ to try to work out if the site of an earlier Poorhouse was recycled more than once to end up as the Union Workhouse, or alternatively, what Madeley Lodge was in 1824. Why would an ag lab's wife die there unless it was some sport of social or charity care? It could be that she lived in the Lodge of "the Big House" as a tenant in a tied house, but I need to know the building's status to know.
Madeley, I shall look at it on Google Earth now!
Thank you both.
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Cox, Nottingham, Maidenhead, West London
Donne, Carmarthen London & Kent
Holloway Medway, Kent
Hepple, Northumberland
Hurrian, North Kent, SE London
Lutman, Sussex
Newcomb, Corby, Lincs, Southwark, Clerkenwell
Orange Normandy East London
Proudlock, Northumberland
Shipley, Northumberland
Staples, City of London, Holborn
Sweeting, Suffolk, London, Surrey
Wilson, Marylebone, Fulham, London

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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 May 14 18:58 BST (UK) »
The first picture on the link that Kgarrad gave you is of the old work house on Belmont road about 5 minuites on foot from the Beeches. regarding the lodge it has always been devided into cottages in living memory and probably belong to the local farm at some point, but originally I think it was something to to with Basil Brook who was a local landowner two or three hundred years ago. i could go down there and take a photo if you want. Regarding your ancester that died there she would almost certainly be buired at St Michaels church madeley.

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Re: Madeley Lodge 1824
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 May 14 19:33 BST (UK) »
Try putting in Lincoln hill Ironbridge on google earth when the picture comes up there will be the red marker to show where Lincoln hill is, written across the screen is Lincoln hill Ironbridge Telford.Right underneath the T of Telford with a few bushes around it is the Lodge you can see the beeches just above and to the right. if you scroll the little man on the screen you can stand right on the drive.