West Kilbride - Christina Wilson and Hugh Hunter

[MonicaL]

On the marriage cert that you have for Christina in 1913, father David would have shown as deceased, what about mother Margaret? Was the word deceased after her name?

Monica

[MonicaL]

Christina Wilson's mother Margaret Harvey Law (Wilson) - I havent been able to trace a death certificate and the only SP death certificates with the same name introduces Mitchell which doesnt seem right.  Margaret Harvey Law's marriage certificate shows her parents are Robert law and Catharine Law at West Kilbride.  Robert law and Catharine Law married on 18 May 1846.  I cant trace them beyond that.

Margaret's mother, Catherine, her maiden name was Taylor? At least one birth showing here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYYT-T26 Nothing showing before the start of official registration in Scotland from 1855.

With a birth showing in 1856, assuming parents remained in Scotland, you should be able to find their death certs hopefully on SP.

Added: Possible census entries:

1851
Robert Law 31, Hand Loom Weaver (cotton)
Catherine Law 26
David Law 4
Catherine Law 2
Christina Mclachlan 23, lodger, labourer's wife
Address: Overton Row, West Kilbride

1861:
Cathrine Law 37, Emp Cotton Winder
David Law 14
Christina Law 12
Alexander Law 9
Margaret Law 7
Robert Law 4
Address: Ritchie Street, West Kilbride

You would need to check the original image for 1861 to confirm Catherine's marital status, but there is a death showing on SP for a Robert Law in West Kilbride in 1858 (just from general searches). Possible also for Catherine, much later in 1903.

Monica

[Loquitur]

That's great - could not find Christina on FS facility.

Father was deceased on the marriage cert but Margaret Harvey Wilson wasn't.

[MonicaL]

I am struggling too with the death of Margaret Law. Always possible she didn't die in Scotland. She may have left Scotland to join any one of her children who may have left with their families.

On Margaret's father Robert's line, just found this:

Robert Law (or Harvey), 37, June 3, 1858 at Miller's Row, West Kilbride,
Married, Weaver,
Parents: David Harvey, Dyke Builder, and Margaret Law
Catherine Law (or Harvey) Wife, (X)

Someone has kindly transcribed 1858 deaths here www.ayrshireroots.com/Genealogy/Records/Post%201855/Ayrshire%201858%20Deaths.htm This gives you the explanation behind the use of the middle name Harvey. It looks like father Robert was illegitimate and went by either the reputed surname of father (Harvey) or mother's maiden name (Law).

Monica

Added: As you can see from this old post connected with Margaret's eldest sister, the middle name of Harvey was used with a number of the children. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AYRSHIRE/2000-11/0973725752

[jonn]

Hello Loquitur,

The Kean's on the 1881. census, Address, Overton Rd. Big Well, West Kilbride,

John Kean, Head, Ag Lab, M. age 48 years, born Ireland,
Mary Kean, Wife, M. age 43 years, born Ireland,
Mary Kean, Daur, Field Worker, age 16 years, F. born West Kilbride,
Alice Kean, daur, Scholar, age 8 years, F. born West Kilbride,
Jane Kean, Daur, age 5 years, F. born West Kilbride,
Alexander Kean, Son, age 2 years, M. born West Kilbride.

Mary Kean, daur, was born 31/Jan/1865. West Kilbride, to John Kean, and Mary Reynolds.

As in the wife of Thomas Hunter, ie Martha Mcinnie, Mary Reynolds, surname on some of the childrens births has several variations, ie Ronalds.

They are all there on the IGI. up to 1874.

Regards,
Jonn.

[jonn]

Hello Loquitur,

The 1881 census, for the Hunter's.

Address, Halfway Street, West Kilbride,

Thomas Hunter, Head, Ag lab, W, age 52 years, M. born Ireland,
Hugh Hunter, Son, Stone Mason, age 15 years, M. born West Kilbride,
Thomas Hunter, Son, Scholar, age 12 years, M. born West Kilbride,
Margaret Hunter, Daur, age 10 years, F. born West Kilbride.

As i stated on a earlier post Thomas Hunter's, wife Martha Mcinnie, died 1876. west Kilbride.

The son Hugh Hunter, was born 08/May/1865. to parents Thomas Hunter, and Martha Mcinnie, in West Kilbride.

Regards,
Jonn.

[jonn]

Hello loquitur,

There are eight births for Thomas Hunter, and his wife Martha Mcinnie, on the IGI. for West Kilbride, one in particular is for a daughter Elizabeth Hunter, born in 1855. this would be a excellent purchase from Scotlandspeople, as there are normally a lot of extra information on that year for births, should include where Thomas, and Martha, were married and year of marriage some time prior to 1855. may even be in Ireland.

Regards,
Jonn.

[Loquitur]

I found the parish church marriage record for the marriage of Robert and Christine Law but doesn't list the parents in the book.

I've got a few updates to make now :-)

In terms of search census records: how do I go about this on familysearch?

Also findmypast.co.uk and ancestry.co.uk seem a better deal financially in terms of census record search - is this the case then using SP to obtain specific bmds etc?

Kind regards

[MonicaL]

Each source of info and records does diffent things really. Depends on what you are trying to do and where you are with your research.

Family search is simply an index of mostly birth and marriage entries. As an index, it has in most cases little info apart from dates and basic details. Scotlands People is the only source for original full records (images from the parish and statutory registers). Family Search indexes also stop early for Scotland, normally around 1875, although with the revamp that has gone on, you do find the occasional later birth or marriage index entry.

Findmypast and Ancestry only have really the census transcripts up to 1901 (1911 only available on SP). Useful when trying to find households/people. Original images though are only available on SP.

Monica