John PHILLIPS married Mary Ann REES...Census etc

[Dale]

Kia Ora
Greetings from NZ

I think John Phillips married Mary Ann Rees Pembrokshire Sept Qtr 1840.
I think they began a family the same year the children being baptised in Angle.

I don't yet have the certs for any of these as I prefer to 'iron" out any problems before embarking on an expensive exercise!

I know the family of John Snr and Mary Ann Phillips emigrated to New Zealand on the "Gertrude" arriving 2 Feb 1868 leaving some adult children behind.

Can  anyone help me with 1841, 1851,1861  censii please?
Emigrating in 1868 were;
John Snr age unknown
Mary Ann wife age unknown
James: c 1840
William: c. 1844
Lydia: c.1846
Elizabeth: 1850
Eliza Frances: 1857
Jane birth unknown
Annie birth unknown

Left behind may have been:

Mary, Alice and Martha PHILLIPS  who maybe married and were reluctant to travel?

John Phillips Jnr. may have travelled earlier circa 1865.

If anyone has "lost" Phillips family members I have found spares DOWN UNDER!
Hoping someone may be able to help!
Dale

[keyboard86]

Hi Dale, this is 1851 Census:-

John Phillips 33 occ Ag Lab b Castlemartin Pembrokeshire.
Mary 33
James 10
John 9
William 7
Lydia 5
Mary 3
Elizabeth 7 months
Residing at Broom Hill, Angle, Pembrokeshire.
All other than shown b Angle
Census Ref HO107/2476/564/6
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

In 1841 looks like they are with Mary's parents:-

John Phillips 20
Mary 25
James 9 months
David Rees 50
Elizabeth 55
Eliza 20
Lydia 15
Mary Bamkin 75
Martha Bamkin 75
Residing at Angle Village, Pembrokeshire.
Census Ref HO107/1443/ 1/5 / 5
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

1861 Census

John Phillips 43 occ Farm Lab b Castlemartin
Mary Ann 43
John 18
Lydia 14
Elizth 10
Alice  8
Residing at Mellestone Farm, Mellestone Lane, Monkton, Pembrokeshire.
Census Ref RG09/4158/56/9
Keyboard86

[Dale]

WOW! Thank you that confirms my suspicions - I'll have to check the info carefully  against what I know so far!
The 1861 may throw up the names of the other children as the Bankin name is familiar to me -used as a second forename here in NZ.
JOY! Thank you!
Dale

[Dale]

Whoops the 1861 arrrived while I was typing!
More checking obviously for possible deaths or nicknames etc.
Many thanks indeed - that sure has clarified some of what I was seeking.
Much appreciated!
Dale

[Orielbenfro]

I would suggest that your John Rees is one and the same that is baptised at Castlemartin in 1818, however at present it does not appear that his parents married there.

I would suggest that your Mary Ann Rees is one and the same that is baptised at Angle in 1818. IGI website backs this with 20 March 1818 to David & Elizabeth Rees, and Lydia baptised 18 Aug 1822.

Bam[p]kin is a surname also found at Angle, so the inference is that David Rees mrd Elizabeth Bampkin which I shall attempt to confirm, if no one else beats me to it.

Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname

[Dale]

Kia Ora Orielbenfro
Sorry beenaway having dinner and haven't yet followed up the IGI but you are probably correct!

My concern is now what happened to Eliza Frances Phillips on the 1861.  An Eliza F Phillips definitely travelled with the family in 1868 and at her marriage is described as the 5th dau of John. There was also a Mary born 1848. and a Martha born 1854.
I think I need to solve these mysteries before I move further back!

Thanks for your help
Dale

[Orielbenfro]

My concern is now what happened to Eliza Frances Phillips on the 1861.  An Eliza F Phillips definitely travelled with the family in 1868 and at her marriage is described as the 5th dau of John. There was also a Mary born 1848. and a Martha born 1854.

Dale
As per the registers, I believe Mary was baptised  in 1848, Martha baptised in 1854 and Eliza Frances Phillips was baptised in 1857 all at Angle, is this what you already have.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname