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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 October 08 02:19 GMT (UK) »
I haven't had a problem with my mixed ancestery of Welsh, Irish, English , Greek and whatever remains to be found.

However, we are convinced that we are related to a well known banking family, but the people we have spoken to, in that family, think that this is unlikely, as they are so socially superior!

So it's not ethnicity, but class that is proving to be a problem there.
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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 November 08 19:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi PaulW

Yes my Aubers have Helsdons, Fradines and Morins in the tree.

My 3xgreat grandmother was Clara Emma Auber born in 1835, the daughter of John & Elizabeth Auber nee Helsdon. Johns father was Samuel Auber.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Ben
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 January 09 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Hello Ben

I have only just picked up your reply of 1 Nov to my message re the Aubers - sorry for the delay.   Matilda Auber was my maternal grandmother's grandmother.
I established that a few years ago, but a hunch in an idle moment last summer about her name and City address made me Google Matilda's name and location and I picked up your work.  Splendid.  I always had a soft spot for the Huguenots now I know why!
The family married in to the Rowleys from Pattingham in South Staffordshire, which is rather odd to my mind, except that I noticed the Huguenot Society has collated the Pattingham parish records.  I have also noticed that the 'Roelli' name is associated with French protestants from inter alia Picardy (and the Rhineland), but I don't now if this is coincidence.

Anyway, thanks for getting back.

Kind regards

PaulW

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 January 09 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul

John Auber, Matilda's grandfather was born in 1783 in Shoreditch, son of Samuel and Elizabeth Auber. Samuel was born in 1750 in Mile End New Town, son of Samuel and Susannah Auber nee Barham. Susan died in 1815.

Ben
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 January 09 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ben

Yes, Matilda's grandparents were John and Elizabeth Auber.  Do you think there is any chance of finding out where the Aubers orginated from do you think, ie before c.1750?


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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 15 January 09 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul

I am not sure but I do know that many came from Lunneray in France. Samuel Auber married Susan Barham in 1743 at the Fleet in London. He must have been previously married as there was a Samuel Auber born in Whitechapel in 1740, son of Samuel and Mary Auber.

I have noticed that Auber also has a name variant of Obey.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 15 January 09 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ben

Well, failing that I'd like to find out more about the Fradin/es and Morins.

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 15 January 09 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Susan Fradine was born in 1765, daughter of Francis Fradin and Elizabeth Morin. Francis was born in 1741 to Claudius and Sarah Fradin. Claudius was born in about 1700 to Claude and Catherine Fradin. Claude was born in about 1664, probably in France.

Elizabeth Morins father Jean was from Mouilleron En Bas Poitou in France. Elizabeths mum was Elizabeth Susan Pequin born in 1708 to Jean Pequin and Marie Hallot from Normandy.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Relatives standoffish towards non English ancestors.
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 January 09 01:03 GMT (UK) »
My relatives on my dad's side of the family know there is Spanish/Portuguese blood in the family, but we can't trace the source.  However, I have my suspicions that the reason I'm getting nowhere is that these people were Jews, possibly Sephardic and may even have changed their names.

On the other hand, however, my Mum always thought that she had French blood in her background, only because someone mispronounced her maiden surname and then said that they thought it was French ::)  She was quite disappointed when I traced it back to the late 1700s and not found any French, although the surname is a little common in Hastings, so I suppose it could have been French - the Norman Conquest etc.

Lizzie