Anyone up for finding folks?

[lulubird]

This is a shot in the dark for which you'd need young Thomas's marriage certificate to prove anything.

In the 1901 census:

113 Great Dover Street,Newington.


Thomas Miller  -  47 b. Southwark.  dealer in horse flesh,at home.

Catherine  -  45  St George's

Thomas Arthur  -  19  St George's

James  -  15  St George's

Ellen  -  17  St George's

Martha  -  8  St George's

Maggie  -  6  St George's

James Mahoney  -  57  brother-in-law  (B. Cork,Ireland)

Thomas Miller married Catherine Marney(sic) in St Saviour's district,Southwark, in 1878

In 1881,  Thomas & Catherine Miller are living in 2 Fisher's buildings,Southwark. They have two daughters  Mary Ann (aged 2) and Catherine (aged 8 months). In 1891,they are living in 298 Tabard Street,Southwark, and he's listed as Thomas A. Miller (Thomas Arthur??).

Given the names of the children(i.e. Thomas Arthur,Mary Ann and Martha),he looks a distinct possibility.

[DebPat]

humm looks likely ill grant.. i am more bothered by the fact that he first appears aged 15.. and hes not with mum on the previous census aged 5.. when his two full sisters are.. :S

Any clue about the 1861?

[lulubird]

Another long shot,I'm afraid and difficult to prove.

1861  -  57 Hill Street,Walworth

Thomas Miller  -  aged 8, born Walworth,scholar,boarder.

The boy is boarding with a couple called Samuel and Hannah Kerridge.

It may be a total red herring but,sometimes,if a family were having problems (i.e. father's illness or death),the youngest was often farmed out to family, friends or neighbours to bring up. It happened several times in my immediate family.  It meant that mum could work to keep them out of the workhouse.   My uncle's youngest aunt was left with neighbours in Liverpool when her suddenly widowed mother took her three older children with her to her home town of St Helen's. 

[DebPat]

yes i saw that one.. thought it was the most likely bet

I am glad you agree. Now all i need is a birth chuckle. this family is not making it easy!

Lots of arthur thomas, called thomas when young.. fyi this thomas has a half brother called arthur thomas. aggghhh!

Interestingly though.. that thomas was a horseflesh dealer.. so it does all tie in.. and as he got older he went by arthur thomas