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Offline David Campbell

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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #9 on: Friday 10 January 14 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Bob,
I have left a message for you on Campells in Australia! Finally we get to talk.
Angus and Christian had a son David Born 29-06-1807
Who had a son David I can find no record of his birth but died 17/04/1899 in Balfron
His wife Mary Agnes Cunningham d 3/02/1891
They had by my findings 7 children, David, Agnes,Jessie, Alexander (My Great Great Grandfather)
Also Catherine, Jane and Annie or Nan

Alexander Married Mary Leckie,
Son David married Mary Sword
Son David Married Flora MacDougall
And Had one son me David Campbell
I have Three.
I am very excited to find you!!

I do hope you can shed more light on David who died 1899 and before.

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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 January 14 00:17 GMT (UK) »
Good morning David
It is great to connect with you. More mysteries unfold every time I revisit our family tree.
The David born on 29 June 1807 is my great grandfather.I have a copy of the parish register. However he died on 10 January 1862 at Parramatta  New South Wales. His son David McLew Campbell is my grandfather.
I am not sure that our 1807 Davids are the same person.
Lets look at this further. The name David comes from the McLew side being Christian's father.
Kind regards
Bob

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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 January 14 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Hello Bob and David,
Are you able to clarify which David born 1808 or 1807 is the Campbell which links back to Christian McLew or Campbell listed on the Balfron stone.
(My interest is in Christian McLew's forebears and a marriage @ 1714 between McLew's of Balfron and Drymen Parishes).
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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 January 14 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob,
Working backwards:
My Grandfather David Campbell
b 19/07/1905
d 14/05/1963
m 24/01/1931 to Mary Sword

His father Alexander Campbell
b 12/07/1872 (I have his original birth certificate found whilst clearing a dead relatives house in Balfron)
d 21//12/1944
m 09/06/1904 in Kirkudbright

His parents David Campbell and Agnes Cunningham
I have a marriage certificate from 24/02/1865 giving parents as David Campbell servant deceased and Janet Mclew cotton winder deceased

His parents as documented on death and marriage Certs.
are David Campbell and Janet Campbell (this is the tricky bit as the document I have printed is unclear on review the maiden surname may be McLean? If it is we are looking at different people I need to review this one. From my initial findings my understanding of the document was Mclew
David as previously mentioned was 29/06/1807.

This is the problem part!
Potentially different wife McLean not Mclew.
I can find no record of a death cert ( but if he died in Aus. That would explain why)
I can find no record of a marriage either?


From a broader search
Two David Campbell's found born in Balfron
One 1862 one 1865

Two things are certainly true one commonality of name and area.
The plot thickens!
I will have a look at this over the coming weekend.
My feeling at the moment is these ARE different David Campbell's but I need a birth certificate!

Interestingly I grew up in Balfron before 10 years ago moved with my family to Australia we now live in Port Stephens.


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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 January 14 11:30 GMT (UK) »
I had another look at the documents tonight but none the wiser!
I have tried searching Scotlands People for ever variations but no success.

I have located two David Campbells in Balfron, one 5 years old in 1871 census with his family in Dunmore ST. Balfron, this is consistent with MY David.
Another is given as 8 years old and found in Buchanan St.in a different household beside the entry it states Bro. The family name is Hoeieg or similar again very hard to read.

I think I have hit another brick wall!

Is your Robert Campbell, Merchant, the Robert (Campbell's Cove) Campbell?
I imagine not many merchants in Sydney in those early years.

David

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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 January 14 11:34 GMT (UK) »
To Jcmac.

Sorry none the wiser at the moment as you will have read in the previous posts.
I think Bobs David is the man you are looking for.
I am now a bit stuck as searches are returning nothing on a Marriage between David Campbell and Janet (Mclew, McLean or any one else) I have searched all the above including just Janet with no results.

Cheers
David

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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 14 January 14 11:54 GMT (UK) »
David,
Have you seen the 1851Census on FreeCen for Balfron
Sct1851/472 Balfron ED2 Page30 sched138 Hillhead
Janet McLean Head Un 35 Balfron
Agnes Maxwell Daugh Un 18 Balfron
David Campbell Son Un 15 Balfron
Catherine McLaren Sis Un 65 Aberfoyle
and two nieces.
You would need to check the original papers - could this be a connection ?
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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16 January 14 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank You

Yes I have found the 1841 census showing Janet McLean with a 4 year old David Campbell
and then again as you pointed out in the 1851 census from this I have located Janet's Birth and Death certificates.
Her death cert states single with Agnes Maxwell present, with another daughter surname McLaren in the household.
From this I am assuming one mother and more than 1 father!
Still no luck on a birth certificate for David, only his death certificate which shows mother as Janet Campbell MS McLean, and father as David Campbell.
I understand illegitimate births may not have been registered pre1855, I have tried Scotlands People with no luck.
Any Ideas or suggestions?

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Re: McLew's of St Ninians
« Reply #17 on: Friday 17 January 14 00:10 GMT (UK) »
David,
It would appear that family resident in Balfron Parish so I would be looking for a birth under David Mac/McLean as well as Campbell.
In addition I would check the Kirk Session minutes @ 1835-1839 and Poor Law applications from the earliest date available up to the date of death of Janet McLean.
jcmac.