1841/51 census lookup please

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I'm looking for William Chalmers/Chambers born Fife 1793 and wife Janet (maiden name Fenton). Children are David b.1824, Janet b.1827, Anne b.1828, Euphemia b.1830, William b.1832, Catherine b.1834, Jane b.1837 and Robina b.1839. All children were born in Clackmannan. Any help would be be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Elisabeth

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1841 Parish No 466 Page 14 Clackmannan Clackmannanshire

Address Devon Iron Works Howtown

Wlm Chalmers age 48 occupation Army P born Scotland rest born Clackmananshire Scotland
Jane Chalmers age 44

David Chalmers age 17 Blacksmith Appr
Janet Chalmers age 15 Wool Factory
Ann Chalmers age 14 Wool Factory
Euphenia Chalmers age 11
Catherine Chalmers age 7
Jean Chalmers age 4
Robina Chalmers age 1 born Clackmannanshire Scotland

Pam

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Hello

1851 census
Clackmanna
High Street


Margaret Russell head age 46 widow born Fifeshire Scotland Carnock
Joseph Russell age 19 unmarried son Mining lab born Clackmannonshire
Edward Chalmers Brother unmarried age 42 ag lab born Clackmannanshire
Helen Chalmers age 37 unmarried sister Woolen Factory Girl born Clackmannonshire
Susan Chambers pauper sister age 51 unmarried born Fifeshire Scotland Carnock

Pam

[elisabethroberts]

Thank you so much, Pam. The 1841 family is obviously the right one. William apparently fought in the Peninsular War.  I don't think the 1851 lot are mine-none of these Christian names run in the Chalmers family. Unfortunately, Chalmers was a popular name in Fife. 
Best wishes,
Elisabeth

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Can I ask for some more Chalmers/Chambers in the 1841 Clackmannan census, please? I have found my William, Janet and family on the 1851 census and was astounded to see that in the two houses next door to them at Howtown were John and Betsy Chalmers(b. about 1821 in Clackmannan) and Andrew and Helen Chalmers(b. 1816 Clackmannan). I have no idea who these Chalmers are, but I can't imagine that it is just a coincidence. I think John and Andrew's parents may be David and Margaret Chalmers, so any sightings of these names in 1841 might give me a clue.
Many thanks
Elisabeth

[MonicaL]

Hi Elizabeth

There are some entries on IGI which might be relevant. To parents David Chalmers and Margaret Harrower:

1. CHARLES CHALMERS  Christening: 09 APR 1826 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
2. ANDREW CHALMERS Christening: 06 JAN 1816 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
3. JOHN CHALMERS Christening: 18 APR 1822 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
4. GEORGE CHALMERS Christening: 28 JUN 1818 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
5. JANET CHALMERS Christening: 13 FEB 1814 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland

These are all actual extracts from the OPRs rather than submitted entries.

For father David Chalmers, there are submitted details regarding his birth/marriage:

David Chalmers  Birth: About 1787 Of, Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
Marriages: Spouse: Margaret Harrower    Marriage: 08 AUG 1812 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland

Regards.

Monica
   

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1841 Clackmannan Clackmannanshire Parish Number 466 Ed 2 page 14


Address Devon Iron Works Howtown

Andw Chalmers age 24 Clackmannanshire common lab
Hellen Chalmers age 22 Clackmannanshire Scotland
Margt age 1 born  ClackmannanshireScotland


1841 Parish 466 ED 3 page 14 Clackmannan Clackmannanshire


NewtonShaw

Charles Chambers age 20  Blacksmith born Clackmannanshire
Elizabeth Chambers age 20 born Clackmannanshire


  1841 Clackmannanshire 466 ed  6 page 1

Address Shandbody

Andrew Chalmers age 70 Wright  bornScotland


1841 Alloa Clackmannanshire Parish number 465 ED 2 Page 40


Address Town of Alloa Izzat Street

John Chalmers age 25 Clackmannanshire Brick Maker
Cathrine Chalmers age 25 Clackmannanshire



1841 Old Monkland Lanarkahire Parish Number 652 ED 11 page 7


Cairnhill Row
John Chambers Scotland age 25 occupation Iron M
George Chambers  age 20 Scotland  occupation Iron M


1841 Scoonzie Fifie Parish 456 ED 4 Page 14

High Street

George Chalmers age 27 born Fife Scotland Occupation Linen H L W which I think is Hand Loom Weaver
Mary Chalmers age 27 Fifie
John Chalmers age 17 occupation Linen H L W Appr born Fife


1871 English Census Vessel Myronidon RG10/5782 folio 147 page 7

Town Port Royal Jamaica County Royal Navy Country England

There is a

John Chambers  born Allsa Clackmannan Scotland age 26 Private  Royal Navy


1871 English Census RG10/527

address off Carron Wharf  River Thames London
James Harrower age 25  born Clackmannan Clackmannanshire Fireman

Ther are 117 Harrowers on the 1841 census Clackmannanshire would you believe 3 Betsys


Pam

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Thank you Monica and Pam. What are the chances of three families of Chalmers being at Devon Iron Works and one not being related, I wonder? Unfortunately, I've already traced the David Chalmers in my lot(William's brother)-he was in Alva in 1841/51 with his family- so I don't know how David Chalmers and Margaret Harrower's family could tie in. Don't start me on Harrowers! My gg grandfather was a Harrower from Clackmannan. Every second surname in Clackmannan is Harrower or Hunter. It's never easy, is it?
Regards,
Elisabeth

[wianhall]

I know it has been a while since this was posted but I found this by accident. I have been doing some family research and among some papers that I found in an old family bible was a paper about William Chalmers about which nobody seemed to know anything about, it gave more or less his history bit was headed death of a Peninsular War hero. He was a sergeant in the Coldstream Guards I will attach this. From my research he was born in 1793 in Flisk in Fife and died in 1864 and is buried along with his wife Janet Fenton spelled Fenten on on the stone in Clackmannan Parish church graveyard this I only found this week the stone being in good condition.His daughter Ann married a man called John Westland whose daughter Margaret married James Mckenzie from Alva who was my great grandfather making William Chalmers my 3 times grandfather. Ihope this is of help. Ian Hall.