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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 November 14 11:13 GMT (UK) »
No it's not easy but it is satisfying when you finally get there ;D

I'm going to have to leave it now, need to go out but I will have another go when I get back. :)
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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 November 14 11:16 GMT (UK) »
Crisane - I'm beginning to think that the Elizabeth Hillidge birth you found may be hers (though Ralph and Martha Illidge had an Elizabeth too, around 1844 - many children over nearly 30 years so possibly the years aren't too accurate, will try and check that). 

Ralph's daughter Elizabeth was married on 27 Dec 1861, age given as 19; hopefully this means the 1844 birth as Elizabeth Hillidge isn't her.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 November 14 11:17 GMT (UK) »
No it's not easy but it is satisfying when you finally get there ;D

I'm going to have to leave it now, need to go out but I will have another go when I get back. :)

Thanks Rolnora, you've been a huge help. Will go for the cert based on Illidge/Hillidge in 1844, parents John and Sarah and see what happens. 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 November 14 11:23 GMT (UK) »
is this her ?...states b Dutton - I drive through Dutton regularly ...it is a small village outside Runcorn

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7K8-XJF
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 November 14 11:30 GMT (UK) »
you probably have this
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3RP-6HZ

John and Sarah with grandson George Tudor aged 5
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJS-CND

John and Sarah with grandson George Tudor aged 14
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3BY-WZG

the death of Elizabeths brother aged 19
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQGX-59M
I will try and find his birth around 1838/39 to see if it names Sarahs maiden name

they had a son Joseph as well
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7K8-XV4

added
no joy - can`t find Sarahs maiden name or a marriage for John and Sarah ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 November 14 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Sorry posted this on your other thread by mistake.
I still haven't been out and was rushing :)
It will need some checking but could be a possible marriage.

Marriage 16 April 1838 Warrington
John Hildige birthdate 1814
Sarah Yarwood  birthdate 1810
John's father Samuel.
Sarah's father Hugh
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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 November 14 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Garstonite, I had the first three, but not Elizabeth's brother's death (only found out yesterday that she had a brother!). Not sure that Joseph is the same family though?

Rolnora, that marriage looks good :). The censuses suggest she was born around 1809-1811 in Weaverham (1851 and 1861). Not sure what it says in 1871 (maybe Whalcroft?) and not found them in 1881 yet (no doubt another funny spelling). John and Sarah died within 4 months of each other in 1882 having outlived all three of their (so far) known children. 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 November 14 07:46 GMT (UK) »
1881 Sarah says she is born in Watcroft ,Cheshire
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3BY-WZG

http://ukga.org/england/Cheshire/towns/Whatcroft.html

maybe someone can find Sarah Yarwood b abt 1809 in Whatcroft ?
AA Routeplanner states Whatcroft to Weaverham is 9 miles
ADDED- Whatcroft is a town in Davenham Parish
here is Sarah Yarwood b 17th aug 1808

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMHH-1BP
so that marriage that Rolnora found is looking very likely to me ?   
Sarah b Whatcroft
married Warrington = 16 miles apart ...
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Elizabeth Illidge, born 1844 in Aston-by-Sutton
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 30 November 14 08:24 GMT (UK) »
If we can find them in 1841 as a couple with son John it will round it off nicely.
Then we've found everything census wise but still haven't found Elizabeth's baptism ???
Hopefully the marriage for John and Sarah is the correct one because Sarah Yarwood is very easy to trace and I'm betting that Deirdre has already been working on that one herself ;D

Genuki gives some info on Whatcroft

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/whatcroft.html


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