Is this the same Stephen Mackenzie?

[LizzieL]

According to the transcription of Irish prison registers on Family search, a Stephen Mackenzie was serving a sentence for debt in Kilmainham prison in 1906.
Other details are Residence:  7 Ardama Terrace Monkstown Dublin
Age:  41 (estimated year of birth 1865). Birthplace:  Gourock Glasgow.

My Stephen (Maxwell) Mackenzie was resident at 7 Ardenza Terrace, Blackrock, Dublin in 1901. He died in 1907 with an estate worth about £1100. His widow and family were still living at the same address in 1911. My Stephen was born in 1865 but in Londonderry (census data and birth record). However his family were from Glasgow, his older siblings were born there and his younger siblings were born in Dublin. Although my Stephen looked reasonably well off - he had two servants in 1901, he could have had peaks and troughs in his career (he was a ship broker) so he might have been in debt occasionally.

I have been unable to find the address on the prison record, but Monkstown and Blackrock look close on the map. Also I have been unable to find any other Stephen which would match the one in prison. So my conclusion is that despite the slight discrepancies in the birthplace and adress my Stephen is the one who served the prison sentence.

What does anyone else think?

 

[gaffy]

First off, does the civil death record offer up any other information?

This is the closest I could see, is it a possibility (1908)?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRNT-HM9
 

[LizzieL]

He died 24 December 1907, so with Christmas and New Year, it is quite possible that the death didn't get registered until 1st quarter 1908. The age fits and middle initial is M for Maxwell. Rathdown looks like the right registration district for Artenza terrace which is in Seapoint according to probate record.

[eadaoin]

I grew up in that area, and the moment I saw "Artama" , I said "bet that's Ardenza - never heard of Artama"

In Thoms Directory, it comes under Seapoint, Blackrock.

Alma Road, which is almost opposite to the Entrance to Ardenza, is under Monkstown.

Unfortunately, the earliest Thoms I have is 1922 - if there was an earlier "Artama"  I can't tell you anything about it.

regards eadaoin

[LizzieL]

Thank you. That does seem to confirm that the transcription of the prison record is slightly incorrect, probably trying to copy from poor or faded handwriting. The place of birth may be wrong because information was supplied by a sibling. Have just checked again on POBs for the siblings. First 4 born in Glasgow, then Stephen in Londonderry, next one back in Glasgow, last 4 including one unnamed born in Dublin. 

[dathai]

Is this the un named child 1879
Civil register note the volume and page number same as 1620/1881 births
Maxwell Patrick M'Kenzie
Oct Dec 1879
Dublin South
Vol 2 Page 594.

[LizzieL]

It certainly looks like it. The unnamed child was born on 7th October.
Maxwell was given as a middle name to one of the older sons, I haven't yet found where the name comes from. The mother's maiden name was Scott, so possibly one of the grandmothers.

[dathai]

He seems to be in England 1911 born Donnybrook.

[LizzieL]

Thanks, I'll check that one out. His older broher (my great uncle by marriage) also lists his birthplace as Donnybrook on censuses.