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Re: Census Help plz
« Reply #27 on: Friday 04 July 14 11:43 BST (UK) »
1871 census shows Elizabeth Walters nee Sampson was born in Penzance

a possibility

1851 Sandy Bank, Madron, Penzance, Cornwall

Thomas   Sampson   1807   Seaman   Perranuthnoe   
Mary   1815   Penzance   
Julia   1835   Penzance   
Mary Jane   1837   Penzance   
Richard   1838   Penzance   
Fanny   1842   Penzance   
William Hy   1843   Penzance   
ELIZABETH 1846 Penzance
Thomas 1848 Penzance
John 1851 Penzance
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« Reply #28 on: Friday 04 July 14 11:51 BST (UK) »
and in 1861

Coinage Hall Street, Madron, Penzance

Thomas Sampson 52 mariner Breage
Mary 45
Fanny 19 charwoman
William H 18 mason
ELIZABETH 15 Tailoress
Thomas 14 shoe maker
John 10
All others born Penzance

again marriage certificate would confirm her fathers name

There is another Elizabeth Sampson born around the same time in Penzance (c1848)
parents Robert occ butcher & Ann siblings Robert, William, Thomas, John  & Ann
and another on
1861 with parents Henry occ butcher & Emily
children Henry, Emily, Elizabeth (1848) Penzance Ellen, James. Richard & Edward


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« Reply #29 on: Friday 04 July 14 12:01 BST (UK) »
I have just searched the local burial CD Elizabeth P Walters (Parnell?) died 1906 age 58, age could be wrong, but defo her as she is with Richard.

The first Daughter of Daisy was Lavinia Parnell. In 1881 Eliz gives her middle name as Parell, Could you kindly check spelling on 1881 plz ref above.

Thank you will see if I can connect Parnell/Parell with the family you gave. :) She also names first dau Mary.

EDIT
Deaths Jun 1906   
Walters Elizabeth Parnell    58    Pontypridd 11a   317
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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« Reply #30 on: Friday 04 July 14 12:04 BST (UK) »
1881c middle name looks like PARELL to me or possibly PARRELL  :-\
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« Reply #31 on: Friday 04 July 14 12:17 BST (UK) »
Think a few certs are needed.

Wonder if she was born Parnell and her mother remarried  ???

Thank you for your time and input, appreciated :)

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Census Help plz
« Reply #32 on: Friday 04 July 14 12:29 BST (UK) »
You are welcome  :)

Have just checked Cornwall OPC and there’s nothing showing for an Elizabeth Sampson or marriage Sampson/Parnell(Parrell/Parell) that I can see  ???
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/home/

The Elizabeth Sampson with parents Thomas occ mariner & Mary had children christened at
St Mary Penzance (Madron Chapelry) between 1833 - 1838
William Henry, Julia, Mary Jane, Thomas John

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« Reply #33 on: Friday 04 July 14 17:14 BST (UK) »
Not sure if or how this fits... 

18-Feb 1823
Parish Or Reg District   Breage
Groom    John PARNELL
Groom Age   
Groom Residence   Breage
Groom Condition   Bachelor
Groom Rank Profession   
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M)   S
Groom Father Name   
Groom Father Rank Profession   
Bride    Elizabeth SAMPSON
Bride Age   
Bride Residence   Breage
Bride Condition   Spinster
Bride Rank Profession   
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M)   M
Bride Father Name   
Bride Father Rank Profession   
Banns
Witness   William Roseland Symmons
Witness    George Hebbard

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=912119
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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« Reply #34 on: Friday 04 July 14 17:28 BST (UK) »
Thx Jool will Keep on File :)
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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« Reply #35 on: Sunday 06 July 14 18:39 BST (UK) »
I don't know why they were in Wales, but there is also the following

1881
RG11/5288
4 Hewill Street, Cogan, Penarth

Thomas Sampson   34   Boot maker   b. Penzance
Matilda         27         Middlesex
Thomas         7         Canada, Hamilton
Evelyn         4         Glamorgan, Grangetown
Beatrice              2         Glamorgan, Cogan
Ada E         3 months      Glamorgan, Cogan

1881 Wales census
Mary, widow, is with daughter Fanny Frost and family, again in Penarth. Final column mentions she is blind from birth

So it looks as if most of the family moved there  :)
Walls, James, Waterworth, Coram, Higman, Ecroyd, Battersby, Monk, Hine, Reid, Hancock, Glanville, Hudspith, McDonald, Podesta, Wyatt, Harrison, Scantlebury, Davey, Whiting, Edmonds, Glover, Donnithorne.

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