Anyone help with this small photo taken on a glass plate

[AndrewJE]

this is a framed photo taken on a glass plate that I found in my grandmas possessions when she died
sorry for its poor state the black paint has come off the back right top corner and is damaged on the left
Clearly it is old can anyone date it please?
then I can guess at who it might be

thxs
Andrew

[jim1]

This is very blurred so I can only give an approximation.
Ambrotypes as they're called first appeared early 1850's & were the standard format up to around 1860.
They were still around in the early 1860's but had pretty much gone by mid decade.
This looks like it's been taken outdoors which is unusual for these.
I would suggest this is a later one but if you can give us a decent scan we might be able to better advise.

[japeflakes]

bit clearer?

[AndrewJE]

This is very blurred so I can only give an approximation.
Ambrotypes as they're called first appeared early 1850's & were the standard format up to around 1860.
They were still around in the early 1860's but had pretty much gone by mid decade.
This looks like it's been taken outdoors which is unusual for these.
I would suggest this is a later one but if you can give us a decent scan we might be able to better advise.

Thxs Jim
Unfortuneatly the original is very faded but
Here is a 600 dpi version

[still_looking]

Assuming that the original photo is clearer than the scan you have posted.

The scanner is likely to focus on the frame rather than the photo. If you can, use a tablet, phone or camera to take a photograph of the item from an angle rather than from directly above.

You should be able to then get a better quality image of the photograph itself and by using an angle avoid the flash from your device being reflected in the glass. A little trial and error should produce an image that shows the clearer image that you can see.

It probably won't be useful for the restorers on the board but the photo itself should end up clearer.

S_L

p.s. if doing this shows lots of scratches/damage to the photo then place a dark/black surface behind the photo frame before taking the photo.

[chinakay]

Just what I was thinking...the photo has more physical depth than the frame so the image is farther away.

You might also try dragging a "crop" line around the photo before scanning, so it will only scan the image and not the frame. Normally we like to see the frame for dating, but we already know this is an ambrotype so we don't need it.

Cheers,
China