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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 06:12 BST (UK) »
I would guess that it was her husband who received an honour.

BUT . . . family tales have a horrible habit of not being quite correct! ;D

Possibly she just had "airs & graces", and it was somebody saying "she thinks she's a Lady"??
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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 06:14 BST (UK) »
Could be, but will keep delving.  Do you possibly have any information regarding her parents?

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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 06:41 BST (UK) »
This is looking very strange, but . . . .

Jacob & Elizabeth's first child, Walter, was born c 1856 in Hull.
Elizabeth was born in Scawby Brook, Lincolnshire.

I can't find a marriage for a Jacob Lawrence to an Elizabeth in either Yorkshire (East Riding) or Lincolnshire?

Then, on the 1851 census, I found a list of 7 Elizabeths, born in Scawby Brook, around 1830:
Cheesman
Cooling
Goodhand
Hewson
Marshall (living in Hull!)
Sutton
Young

And then I found this marriage:
September qtr 1852
Sculcoates district (Sculcoates is now part of Hull!)    vol 9d, page 181

Marshall, Elizabeth
+ and on the same page +
Tancock, Jacob

And, on checking for Jacob Tancock in 1851:
Reference HO107, 2360, 622, 7
1 Church Street, Drypool, Kingston Upon Hull

Tancock, William  Head  M  68  Boot & Shoe Maker  b Ireland
Tancock, Elizabeth  Wife  F  58  b Sunderland, Durham
Tancock, Jacob  Son  M  23  Shoe Maker  b Sutton, Yorkshire Sutton is now a suburb of Hull
Tancock, John  Son  M  14  Scholar  b Leeds

I freely admit that this is all speculation, and quite possibly a wild-goose chase, but ages and occupations add up!
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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 07:03 BST (UK) »
Gosh!  The surname Tancock becoming Lawrence - stranger things have happened I guess - but the occupations are the same!  This could be a bit of a break-through possibly?


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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 07:32 BST (UK) »
And I can't find Jacob Tancock after that 1851 census.
Neither can I find Jacob Lawrence before 1861!

There is a large age difference between Jacob Tancock and his brother.
I wonder if he was born Lawrence, but his mother remarried?
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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 22:39 BST (UK) »
Now there's a possibility as to why the name changed maybe?

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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 22:56 BST (UK) »
I have found the William Tancock died in 1854 so perhaps between then and the 1861 census she remarried like you thought?

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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 23:12 BST (UK) »
I was thinking the other way around?

Elizabeth marries a mr Lawrence.
Jacob is born in 1828

Mr Lawrence dies.
Elizabeth remarries, to William Tancock.

John Tancock is born, 1837. But maybe to a first wife?

By 1851 everyone is using the name Tancock.
Jacob then reverts to his "original" surname, Lawrence.

Just a line of thinking.
I may be wrong!! :o
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Re: Elsie Victoria Lawrence
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 30 May 12 01:20 BST (UK) »
That does make more sense!  Will have to keep checking previous census' and see if more shows?