Tates of Longtown

[fmather]

Thanks.
On the Longtown site the words "is often named in the register" were used. ....so maybe I'm in with a chance  (even if significantly less than 50%).

[Geoff-E]

I took the opportunity to check the register for May Ann TATE when I was at Whitehaven the other day.

There was no additional information I'm afraid.

[fmather]

Thanks very much for going to the trouble.
Fiona M

[Suzie Young]

???I am up against a brick wall in my attempt to trace my Tate family in Longtown further back than the 19th century.The furthest I've managed to get is the marriage of Robert Tate and Elizabeth Tinniswood circa 1781 but I don't know whether that occurred in Longtown (Arthuret) or elsewhere and have no information of their parentage and background. Any info. or pointers would be gratefully received as I'm 12,000 miles away!

[Suzie Young]

???I am up against a brick wall in my attempt to trace my Tate family in Longtown further back than the 19th century.The furthest I've managed to get is the marriage of Robert Tate and Elizabeth Tinniswood circa 1781 but I don't know whether that occurred in Longtown (Arthuret) or elsewhere and have no information of their parentage and background. Any info. or pointers would be gratefully received as I'm 12,000 miles away!
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???I am up against a brick wall in my attempt to trace my Tate family in Longtown further back than the 19th century.The furthest I've managed to get is the marriage of Robert Tate and Elizabeth Tinniswood circa 1781 but I don't know whether that occurred in Longtown (Arthuret) or elsewhere and have no information of their parentage and background. Any info. or pointers would be gratefully received as I'm 12,000 miles away!

quote]I have family tree details on an Elizabeth Tinniswood, died at Brampton in 1870, aged 83, buried at Hayton.

[robbiesmum]

Hi
Most of the Tates in the Longtown area were buried at Kirkandrews on Esk rather than Arthuret. There is one gravestone there, which is mostly illegible (apart from the names Robert, John and Thomas) but on the reverse is:

Interred here Sarah TINNISWOOD who died at Longtown August 6th 180- aged 97 years.

From the parish register
1806 Jul 29 Tinniswood Sarah aged 94 widow of Arthuret.

Since there are other Tate gravestones nearby, its possible that this is for your Tate family, as there are no other Tinniswoods buried at Kirkandrews on Esk, and that Sarah Tinniswood is a relative of Elizabeth Tinniswood.

Robert Tate married Elizabeth Tinniswood at Arthuret in 1781:
Jan 30th  1781 Marr.   TATE   Robert Tate of Longtown in this parish, Batchelor & Elizabeth Tinninswood X of the same place, Spinster by Banns   (from the Arthuret BTs)   

it might be worth checking out Kirkandrews on Esk for the burials of some of  Tate families there, if your Robert and Elizabeth were buried there then their ancestors may have come from that parish as well.
cheers
robbiesmum

[Suzie Young]

Hi
Most of the Tates in the Longtown area were buried at Kirkandrews on Esk rather than Arthuret. There is one gravestone there, which is mostly illegible (apart from the names Robert, John and Thomas) but on the reverse is:

Interred here Sarah TINNISWOOD who died at Longtown August 6th 180- aged 97 years.

From the parish register
1806 Jul 29 Tinniswood Sarah aged 94 widow of Arthuret.

Since there are other Tate gravestones nearby, its possible that this is for your Tate family, as there are no other Tinniswoods buried at Kirkandrews on Esk, and that Sarah Tinniswood is a relative of Elizabeth Tinniswood.

Robert Tate married Elizabeth Tinniswood at Arthuret in 1781:
Jan 30th  1781 Marr.   TATE   Robert Tate of Longtown in this parish, Batchelor & Elizabeth Tinninswood X of the same place, Spinster by Banns   (from the Arthuret BTs)   

it might be worth checking out Kirkandrews on Esk for the burials of some of  Tate families there, if your Robert and Elizabeth were buried there then their ancestors may have come from that parish as well.
cheers
robbiesmum

Oh, thanks for that, I was replying to the other persons question about Elizabeth but copied her question by mistake, although I didn't know this about Sarah, I have only just begun researching the Tinniswoods, Sarah is my Great Grandmother.  I have just got a load of paperwork from my anuty on this also a copy of the family crest which unfortunately is only in black and white, do you have any other details? Suzie Young (Millar)

[clearly]

Just a note on the Athuret Parish Registers.  If Geoff checked them at Whitehaven Archives, would this be a microfilm copy or a microfilm of the Bishop's Transcripts.
The original Arthuret registers were ordfered to be burned by the incumbent in the mid 1950's and for many years were believed to be destroyed but they turned up in Australia in the 1960's.  They are too fragile to be consulted now but they are on microfilm.  In some years BT's and Registers differ alarmingly in the information they provide.
Incidentally there are Tates or Taits and Tinniswoods in Nicholforest Register in the mid 19 century.

[Geoff-E]

Just a note on the Arthuret Parish Registers.  If Geoff checked them at Whitehaven Archives, would this be a microfilm copy or a microfilm of the Bishop's Transcripts?

What I looked at was a microfilm copy of a standard format 1812+ register page.

I think Anne was described as a Spinster but, beyond that, there was no info.