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Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« on: Sunday 29 June 14 11:17 BST (UK) »
I have John Henry Kinsman with his mother Caroline in 1901 living at Lawson Villa, Parkstone, Dorset.
She gives her age as 58 and born in Carharrack but the age may or not be correct..
I would like to find more about Caroline as there were a few Caroline Kinsmans born in Gwennap area around that time... unless I can establish which Caroline it is then it is a dead end with this family
 Can anyone find her and John Henry on other census years
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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 June 14 11:49 BST (UK) »
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I would like to find more about Caroline as there were a few Caroline Kinsmans born in Gwennap area around that time.

Caroline gives herself as a widow on that census, so if that is correct you need to find her marriage and maiden name.
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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 June 14 18:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you Groom.... I have seen  the 1901 census but for some reason did not note that she was shown as a widow.. i thought unmarried mother....
Her son John Henry was born in 1863 and is shown on the census as living at East Taphouse, St Pinnock, Cornwall... I have no note of who is with him ...may be 1871 shows her as single....

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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 June 14 18:47 BST (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2DVX-PXH possible marriage

1871 - possible family. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFJH-4JS

There are 2 John Kinsman born 1863

Births Mar 1863   
KINSMAN    John Henry  Redruth    5c   280

Births Dec 1863   
KINSMAN    John         Liskeard    5c   69

So maybe not the family you are seeking

1881 RG11; Piece: 2286; Folio: 107; Page: 8
St Neot

Looks like same family. Mistranscribed as Kingsman

William 40
Caroline 40
John 17
Joseph 9
George 5
Edwin 4
Mary Blackwell 23
Henry Blackwell 13

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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
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Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 June 14 19:25 BST (UK) »
1871 RG10/2240/47 p 10
St Pinnock, East Taphouse and West Taphouse

William Kinsman  30
Caroline Kinsman  30 wife b Gwennap, Cornwall
John Kinsman  7
Wm Kinsman  5
Henry Kinsman  3
Elizth A Kinsman  10 Months
 


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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 June 14 19:32 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage

June 1863

KINSMAN    William       
TREVETHAN    Caroline   
 Liskeard    5c   123    
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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 June 14 08:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you Vronladdy, Cas and Groom...... I was initially looking at the Kinsman family back to John Henry Kinsman and noted that his mother was with him in 1901 .. made a mistake in thinking that she was a single mother so been difficult to research further..
Thank you for the correction.. an avenue I had not considered
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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 June 14 08:52 BST (UK) »
I have just followed William Kinsman and Caroline Trevethan but it would appear according to Rootschat that Caroline died in 1881 yet my Caroline is with her son in 1901...
Looks like another avenue closed

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Re: Caroline Kinsman born in Carharrack
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 June 14 09:02 BST (UK) »
So this is your likely John. If you wish to proceed further, I would get the cert to see what info you can obtain. 

Also try and find him in census, do not have access at mo or would try help.  You have discounted the family in reg district Liskeard as Caroline dies in Dec Q 1881.

Births Mar 1863   
KINSMAN    John Henry  Redruth    5c   280

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/places?CON,SW700420,5,Redruth

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Redruth/

Just my thoughts

Good luck Cas
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland