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*COMPLETE* I'm stuck!! Help please...
« on: Friday 08 May 09 07:38 BST (UK) »
Hey,
   I don't suppose anyone could help me out, I think I've hit a bit of a blank space in info. Nothing seems to be coming up!!!

I'm trying to track down ANYTHING relating to:

Thomas SNADDON married Elizabeth DRYSDALE on 21 Nov 1904 in Alloa. Wedding cert lists parents as Robert SNADDON and Margaret .... (can't read her maiden name, looks like it starts with 'Harr'... possibly ends in 'ver').

Have found Robert and Margaret SNADDON in the 1901 and 1891 census', but they aren't showing up prior to that. As far as I can tell, their oldest son was also a Robert, born ~1874, so I'm assuming that they married somewhere between 1870-1874

Robert born ~1845
Margaret born ~1856
Son, Thomas born ~1884

I can't seem to find birth or marriage records for any of them. The only marriage for a Robert and Margaret that is REMOTELY close, lists bride as Margaret BRYNE which doesn't look anything like what is on son's wedding cert.

Any ideas?

Cheers
Heather
Snaddon (and variations... of which there appear to be many...)

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Re: I'm stuck!! Help please...
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 May 09 07:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Heather

There is a family in the 1881 with father Robert born Tillicoultry, c1843, wife Catherine but the 4 children match with 1891. Perhaps Catherine died and Robert remarried

Andy

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Re: I'm stuck!! Help please...
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 May 09 09:07 BST (UK) »
Yes Andy/Heather

The IGI shows 19 Robert Snaddon/Sneddons marrying in Scotland  between 1871/75

One 'extracted ' record to a Catherine Harrower on 01 Jan 1973 in Tillicoultry.

I'd do an SP search for a death of the lady above - good chance it'll be her?

Regards,   Steve   :O)


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« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 May 09 11:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Heather

It looks like SP has a birth for a Thomas SNADDEN born 1883 Tillicoultry who could be yours. I would start there to see if its your Thomas and check the mothers name. There is also a death of a Catherine SNADDEN in 1883.  I wonder if Catherine was Thomas's mother and died shortly after his birth.

The IGI has a Robert SNADDEN born Tillicoultry 11 Oct 1873, father Robert, mother Catherine HARROWER.

There are 2 marriages in Clackmannanshire between 1883 & 1891 between Robert SNADDON & Margaret, one of these maybe yours.

The wife Catherine in 1881 census was born in Tillicoultry and Margaret in 1891 born Killin, Perthshire so they are definately two different people

Can I suggest that when you are searching you use SNADD* as that will pick up variations in spelling, also when you are search for Thomas's birth search on SNADD* leave first name blank, 1881-1891, Tillicoultry and you should get 23 matches. As well as Thomas you should also have the 2 younger children (from the 1891 census). One of these should give you Roberts second wife, Margarets surname. Assuming of course I'm on the right track

Andy


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 May 09 06:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Heather,
   Perhaps you could put up on here the portion of the marriage of Thomas and Elizabeth showing the mothers name. Someone may be able to decipher it for you.
  The 2 marriages Andy mentioned in Clackmannan do not bring up any Margaret beginning with Ha*  as a surname.
  Snaddon/Sneddon/Snoddon etc are very hard to figure out. I have them in my tree also.
Regards
Mariac
   

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 May 09 06:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Mariac

I'm wondering if the mothers name on the marriage certificate has been mixed up and is the first name of Thomas's step-mother (Margaret) and surname of birth mother (Harrower). I think Margaret is the mother of the 2 younger children and the birth certificates of both Thomas and one of the younger children should help clarify it.

Andy

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 May 09 07:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Andy,
    Yes its quite possible that could happen. I have had it a couple of time on my tree.
Agree andy a couple of SP certs would be all that is needed to verify what you are saying.

I have just put the 1881 and 1891 census up for Heather to see that they appear to be the same family with different mother.

1891Woodhead Row  Tillicoultry Clackmannanshire 
Tillicoultry; ED: 6; Page:  2
Robert Snaddon 1845 Tillicoultry, Clackmananshire  Coalminer 
Margaret Snaddon 1856 Killin, Perthshire   
Robert Snaddon 1874  Tillicoultry, Clackmananshire   coalminer
Maggie Snaddon 1876                do             Bobbin Winder
James Snaddon 1878                 do            Woolen Piecer 
Annie Snaddon 1881                do
Thomas Snaddon 1883  Tillicoultry, Clackmananshire
Peter Snaddon 1889             do 
George Snaddon 1890            do

1881  1 Condies Row Tillicoultry Clackmannanshire
Tillicoultry; ED: 6; Page:  23
Robert Snaddon 1843 Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire  coalminer
Catherine Snaddon 1853      do
Robert Snaddon1874  Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire 
Margaret Snaddon 1876  Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire   
James Snaddon 1878                do
Anne Snaddon 1880                  do

Regards
Mariac


 

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 May 09 01:55 BST (UK) »
Maria, it looks the same... but if that's the case, howcome in the 1901 and 1891 census all of the children have Margaret listed as their mother? If Margaret was a stepmother and Catherine their birth mother, wouldn't the birth mother be listed?

Have attached bit of thomas and elizabeth's wedding cert. Can't make out Mum's maiden name
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 May 09 02:36 BST (UK) »
On SP, the only Thomas Snaddon born in Clackmannan in 1883 has parents Joseph and Jane Snaddon...
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