St Barnabas Church Erdington rebuild

[shazs]

Hi,
The plans to rebuild St Barnabas Church  Erdington have been passed and I have noted that  they propose to move some graves/ headstones.

Current graveyard plan:- http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80b7d680.pdf&unique=384189&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP

New graveyard plan :-http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80b7d679.pdf&unique=384189&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP

Design report:-http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80a54540.pdf&unique=384190&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP

All other documents relating to the planning can be found here:- http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/Application/FolderView.aspx?type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP&key=384189


Taken from the Archaology report:-


APPENDIX 2: Marked graves likely to be affected by the development (taken from St. Barnabas Church Graveyard Survey)

Plot no( s). Principal name( s) Year of death Monument type                           Notes
A328       John Stanley    1835       headstone    laid flat
A332       David H. Skerritt    1939       kerbed monument    displaced
A312       Sgt. J. W. Harris    1943       W.G (R. A. F);    in situ
A313       Florence Maud Mary Allcock 1931   kerbed monument    displaced
A314       John Joseph Chandlers 1957       kerbed monument    in situ
A296       Eileen Copeland    1966       kerbed monument    displaced
A297       Joan Simms    1959       kerbed monument    displaced
A299       James Cartwright    1843       chest tomb    in situ
A237       John Kestin Oran    1845       ledger       in situ
A205       Mary Ann Moore    1950       headstone   in situ
A190       John William George Greaves 1950    kerbed monument    displaced  -                     Swanwick       C19       ledger       in situ
A225      Frank Howard Whittington 1950
                               Elizabeth Whittington 1954      kerbed monument displaced
A210       Mary Houghton   ?      ledger       in situ
A193       Thomas Henry Reynolds 1964                    kerbed monument      in situ
A194       Frederick Charles Green 1985                    kerbed monument    displaced
A195       Edna Minnie/ Henry G. Radford 1976       kerbed monument        in situ
A174       William T. Austin    1931       kerbed monument displaced
A161       Herbert William Paxton 1947    l                edger (small) in situ
A338/ A320/ A321/ A322 - -             kerbed monuments    in situ


Sharon
P.S Apologies if the above table is out of line I couldn't get it to publish how it looked on screen!

[Chris R D]

Hi,

I reasearch aviation crash sites in Northumberland.
I have just about located the site of this chaps crash.

My interest is in the grave at St SBarnabas of:-
A312       Sgt. J. W. Harris    1943       W.G (R. A. F);    in situ

Can you tell me if it has been damaged due to the building work?

regards

Chris D.

[shazs]

Hi Chris,
From looking at the plans above I think your grave is affected. On the plan there is a W312A grave ( perhaps the W is for war?). This grave is at the front of the church and at the moment all the monuments have been removed. I think some will be put back but your grave might be where the new staircase entrance is going to be (see my photos below).

View of High Street side of Church - where grave W312A is positoned:-

View of model showing changes to Church from High Street side, showing the new staircase entrance:-

View from Church to the High Street showing that gravestones have been removed :-

View from inside :-

For anyone interested the next open day is on SATURDAY  3rd  SEPTEMBER  2011 from 10.00am  ~  2.00pm. Access from the High Street.

Hope this helps you,

Sharon

[shazs]

Chris I forgot to add this on :-



This is  an extract from the new graveyard plan above. From the key to the plan it looks like  grave W312A is of architectural/ historical interst - to be retained and a war grave. But as you can see it will be situated right at the top of the stairs into the entrance, so it remains to be seen if they keep it there.

I'll post more photos from the next open day and keep you updated.

Sharon

[Chris R D]

Hi Sharon,
Taken from one of your links earlier.

Extract from the Design and Access Statement, St Barnabas Church, Erdington October 2009:                                                                                                                              Discussions and a site meeting have been held with Simon Wilson, Regional Supervisor, of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission in respect of the several War Graves within the churchyard. In particular, the grave and headstone of Sergeant J W Harris (grave ref: A312) has been discussed. This falls outside of the area of the proposed extension but within the new external paving. The accepted proposal is to raise the headstone to suit the new higher paving levels (approx. 500mm) and set it within a gravelled space for emphasis. The internment will be protected at the current ground level and need not be disturbed.

so it looks like plans are afoot to replace the head stone.

Chris

[shazs]

Well spotted Chris, I'd read everything when I originally posted it but not this morning. It'll be interesting to see what they'll do.

Sharon

[shazs]

Update photograph from open day on Saturday 3rd September, showing the new steel structure for the glass entrance / staircase:-







THE NEXT OPEN DAY IS ON:

SATURDAY  17th FEBRUARY  2012

10.00am  ~  2.00pm

Access from the High Street.

[shazs]

Hi all,
I haven't managed to get to any open days for St Barnabas this year but the good news is that it has been rededicated and will have Christmas services :-http://stbarnabaserdington.org.uk/index.php/services/

ITV had a litlle piece on it  here:-http://www.itv.com/news/central/story/2012-12-16/church-reopens-after-fire/

There are open days in January to have a look around the church:-http://stbarnabaserdington.org.uk/index.php/about-us/open-days-january-2013/

Merry Christmas,

Sharon

[shazs]

Well better late than never I suppose, I've finally managed to see the inside of St Barnabas on a weekday although I hadn't got a decent camera with me!


(The grave photo of Sergeant Harris is for Chris.)

I am remembering WW1 military men who are buried at St Barnabas and adding to their life stories on https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/community/1059 So if anyone has information about them either let me know or add information to their page yourself.

many thanks, Sharon