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Re: Twins / Stillbirth
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 16 October 14 16:02 BST (UK) »
I understood that only the parent of a stillborn child can obtain the birth cert?

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/family/children/stillbirth/8747.html

Not even siblings are allowed to apply for them.
Siblings can apply if the parents are dead.

Ah that's why my friend can't apply then,cos her parents are still alive,but after more than 40 years are still too upset to do so.
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 16 October 14 16:11 BST (UK) »
I applied after my mother had died; explained the reasons why I wanted the Stillbirth Cert.

First I had to phone GRO; they then posted (snailmail) an application form.
I returned said form with explanatory letter.
The certificate arrived within 2 weeks.
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Re: Twins / Stillbirth
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 16 October 14 21:26 BST (UK) »
I understood that only the parent of a stillborn child can obtain the birth cert?

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/family/children/stillbirth/8747.html

Not even siblings are allowed to apply for them.

As usual the GRO only give part of the story. ;)

Anyone in the world may apply for any birth certificate whether live-born or still-born.
The difference being is that the supply of a still-born certificate is controlled by the Registrar General he/she may allow or dis-allow the supply of such a certificate as he/she sees fit.
See Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1953. on my website at-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~framland/acts/1953Act.htm

Parents of a stillbirth may obtain a copy of the certificate on payment of the fee.
Siblings of still-born children may obtain a certificate, either with the express consent of a parent, or on their own behalf, where they can demonstrate that their parents are no longer alive on payment of the fee.

Anyone else in the world may obtain a stillbirth certificate if they can show the Registrar General reason for requiring the certificate.
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Re: Twins / Stillbirth
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 16 October 14 21:31 BST (UK) »
So would the register date back to 1849?


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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 16 October 14 21:50 BST (UK) »

Guy,
I have just posted an application for a still birth certificate to the GRO.  They will search from 1931 to 1933. If their search is unsuccessful, would it be worth my while to buy The Historic Stillbirth Register which you mention?  Does The Historic Stillbirth Register contain any stillbirth type events which occurred in the 1930s but which are not recorded by the GRO?

I wish I could say "yes it will" but unfortunately though my Register is growing it is not growing quickly enough.

Due to the secrecy with the Official stillbirth register I cannot say wether any of the stillbirth on the Historic Register are not held on the GRO register in theory every stillbirth is on the GRO register but I have accounts from many people who have found that their own stillborn child is not registered on the official register.

There are roughly just over 3,500 stillbirths in England & Wales every year a figure that has remained the same for around 10 years.
The Historic Register though still growing only has around 11000 stillbirth recorded, a drop in the ocean.

One claim I can make for the Historic Register is that it clearly shows that some stillbirths are linked with locality some pinpoint a problem with a district or even a single street.
Often in areas of heavy industry or coal mining.

The ultimate aim is to upload the database to the web to enable free access but at present there is a charge to help fund the purchase of registers and data sets to assist in the compilation of the Historic Stillbirth Register

Cheers
Guy

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The database covers entries between the years 1551 and 2005 ; though does not claim to be an exhaustive list of such stillbirths.
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Re: Twins / Stillbirth
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 16 October 14 22:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you Guy  :)