Henry Mills,Licenced Victualler, Warwick

[cath151]

Hi,
 On my relatives marriage certificate(ST. Nicholas,Warwick) i have his father Henry Mills(deceased) as  a Licensed Victualler. I am not sure when he died and cant quite pin down the family in the censuses though they might have lived in Stoneleigh.
Does anyone know of any records of Pubs/Licencees in the area from approx 1890 to 1914.
His son was Henry Mills also, born 1884 Warwick district and married Ada Jane Hiorns in 1914.
I would be very grateful for any help as im a bit stuck at the moment!
Many thanks
 cathy

[Valda]

There is this Henry Mills showing on the 1891 census.

RG12 2472 folio 83
College Buildings No 6 Queen Street Leamington  Warwickshire   
Lucy Mills 60Leamington, Warwickshire, Head  Widow Laundress
Lucy Mills 23 Leamington, Warwickshire,  Daughter Single Laundress
George Mills 20 Leamington, Warwickshire, Son Single Bricklayer's Labourer
Henry Mills 8 Leamington, Warwickshire,  Grandson

1881 census RG11 3093 folio 95
25 Queen St, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire
Henry Mills 59 Leamington, Warwickshire, Head Married Brewer
Lucy Mills 49  Leamington, Warwickshire, Wife Married
Lucy Mills 14  Leamington, Warwickshire,  Daughter 
George F. Mills 10  Leamington, Warwickshire,  Son

I've tracked the family on earlier censuses and they had no son (surviving at least) called Henry.
However it is not unusual for illegitimate people to put their nearest known male relative in the place of their father on marriage certificates. Generally if they don't have to, illegitimate people on marriage claim they are legitimate by having a father with the same surname as their own on their marriage certificate.

If you are sure Henry who married in 1914 was born Warwickshire then this Henry on the 1891 census seems the most likely candidate.

1901 census RG13 2931 folio 77
156 Parade Leamington Priors  Warwickshire 
Henry Mills 18 Leamington, Warwickshire, Servant  Draper's porter

Regards

Valda

[cath151]

Hi Valda,
  Thankyou so much,i think you ve cracked it,especially with Henry being a Brewer.I think the idea that the Henrys were born in Warwick sent me off on the wrong track.In fact later relatives lived between Warwick and Leamington.
Thankyou so much for your time,
Cathy

[Valda]

It is a hypothesis I wouldn't say I proved it.

This is a possible birth registration for that Henry Mills.

Births Mar 1883
Mills  Henry     Warwick  6d 628

Regards

Valda

[Joburg]

Hi,
    There is also on the 1881 census

     Piece 3091 Fol.156 Page 43

Address:- Cricketers Arms,1 Victoria St Leamington Priors

Henry J Mills 47 Licenced Vitualler born Hampton Lucy Warwickshire
Eliza 46 born Stratford on Avon
Charles F 17 civil service clerk born Stratford on Avon
George 8 born Stratford on Avon
Claud 4 born Stratford on Avon

I can't find this family on the 1891 but I do think the Henry living with Lucy the grandmother is more than likely the child Henry born to this couple in 1884.

Birth ref.
Warwick 6d 628 Mar.Qtr.1883.

Regards

Joburg

[Valda]

Sorry I don' t understand. I can't see any connection between Lucy and Henry J Mills other than at one point they both lived in Leamington.

Lucy judging from her age on the censuses 1861-1891 was born in Leamington circa 1831. The Henry J Mills born Hampton Lucy and living in Leamington in 1881 was born there circa 1834. On the 1851 census he was living in Stratford the son of John and Elizabeth (John born Stratford). Henry's wife Eliza if she were the mother of a Henry Mills born circa 1883/4 would have to have been around 49/50 when she gave birth to him.

Am I missing something?

Regards

Valda

[cath151]

Hi,
 Thankyou so much Joberg for looking.I can see both points of view and it could perhaps be either of the families,i thought Henry may own a pub but being a brewer is possible as well.Also on Henry 1884 s marriage certificate he was a jewellers porter(whatever that involved) perhaps it was a step up from drapers porter.
I think i will risk it and get a birth certificate for Henry .Thankyou both for the reference.I think it is probably him and perhaps it might clear up the mystery.Thankyou both again,you have given me new leads to follow up.
  Cathy