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Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« on: Sunday 14 July 13 13:27 BST (UK) »
Dear Rootschatters, I have been doing a bit of my own research and I have found the parents to a Isaac Smith whom I asked for earlier on in the year. I have been able to trace his parents to Isaac Smith and Sarah Smith (was Temple). I also found out that her parents are called John and Anne Temple.

Here is some information regarding them,
Isaac Smith (senior) born abt 1788, married Sarah Temple born abt 1787 in Filkins, Oxford at St Peter-le-Bailey parish on 27th April 1812. Sarah was the daughter of John & Anne Temple and was baptised at Broadwell Church on 13 May 1787.

They had two sons, John and Isaac. John died aged 11 in 1824 and Isaac went to London to marry and have children of his own before returning to Oxfordshire area where he died and laid to rest.
◾John Smith (baptised at St Mary Magdalen Church on 7 May 1813)
◾Isaac Smith junior (baptised at St Mary Magdalen Church on 4 August 1816

At the time that the boys were baptised, the family was living in Chain Alley which runs off the north-east end of George Street, and Isaac was working as a plasterer.

Isaac Smith senior died at his home address (14 Worcester Place, Oxford) 23 Aug 1849.
Sarah Smith died at her home address (14 Worcester Place, Oxford) 18 Apr 1871.
John Smith died 20 Sep 1824.
Isaac Smith junior died in Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, 15 Nob 1867.
Mary Ann Smith (was tapp) died at her fathers residence 13 Apr 1859. (wife of Isaac smith junior)


I would be very greatful if anyone would be able to see if they can find any baptsum records, or any records regarding John and Anne Temple or any Births. I have National Probates of Sarah Smith, and Isaac Smith.
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Andrew

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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 July 13 17:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrew

From OFHS Marr Index I think this is the only possibility for marriage John Temple to Ann Illot at Langford 20 Aug 1786

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Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 July 13 17:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this information. Do you know of any death date or possible other children that I maybe able to trace and help me find ancestors please.

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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 July 13 17:44 BST (UK) »
Also looking at Broadwell (Bradwell) St Peter & St George Church, PR's I see the following baptisms.

Sarah bapt 13 May 1787 do of John and Ann

Eleanor bapt 27 Oct 1791 d o William and Ann of Filkins

George bapt 4 May 1794 s o John & Mary of Filkins

John bapt 11 Oct 1789 s o John & Jane of

Marianna bapt 15 May 1796 d o John and Anna of Filkins


No TEMPLE burials in there though
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,


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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 July 13 17:48 BST (UK) »
Marriages; all at the same church

15 Jan 1793 Ann Temple m Richard Hayward b o t p Wits; James Rodaway & Phoebe Bowles

14 May 1868 John Temple widow aged 48 of Kencott a shepherd to Eliza Adams spinster 444 cook Wits; George Temple & George Adams

16 July 1810 Martha Temple to John Garlick b o t p wits; Thomas Cross & John Partridge

10 Nov 1793 Mary Temple otp m Richard Collett otp wits; Luseaser Bantin & William Linzey
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 August 13 11:41 BST (UK) »
Hmm I don't believe any of the marriages you mention could be them for some reason, I have to keep bearing in mind that she could also have used her middle name (as her first name if she wanted). But I don't think any of them are the correct people.

Just reading through the comments again, it could be possible (in my opinion) that the "Broadwell (Bradwell) St Peter & St George Church, PR's for baptisms" I believe that "Marianna bapt 15 May 1796 d o John and Anna of Filkins" could be my Sarah Temple's sister? The only difference is the mothers last name Anna, but as we all know with family history  research their are many different ways to spell Ann, Anne, Anna ect.. along with many other names.

You also say about the only marriage could be "John Temple to Ann Illot at Langford 20 Aug 1786" how would I be sure that  this would be the correct people? It would also make Sarah Illegitimate child.

I am able to afford to purchase two certificates, one of which I will be purchasing of Sarah's husband Isaac, the other I would like to purchase something that would help me the identity of John and/or Ann.

Isaac and Sarah marriage was at St Peter-le-Bailey parish Church on 27 April 1812.

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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 August 13 16:35 BST (UK) »
Having a more INDEPTH look, i have found Sarah "Smith" in 1851 living with her niece, called "Eliza Charidge" born Black Bourton, Oxfordshire, England in abt 1826.

I figured that if someone might be able to find a marriage between a CHARIDGE and a TEMPLE then maybe It might give a clue to where the family could have possibly came from (if they did), because all i have at the moment is the Filkins area of Oxford.

I would be very grateful if anyone would be able to try and find Eliza Charidge's parents if possible please. The surname could be a mistype and infact it could be CLARIDGE. But their are names called Charidge.

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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 August 13 08:56 BST (UK) »
Andrew
I have looked for a marriage of CHARIDGE and CLARIDGE and variant spellings of both to a TEMPLE in the OFHS Marr Index 1538 -1837 and nothing.

Such is the proximity of your search to the Oxon boarder with Wiltshire and Gloucestershire at some time it may be worth a post on those two boards.
Off to have a look and see if there is anything in the PR's I have

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Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: Isaac Smith, Sarah Temple, John and Anne Temple 1780's?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 August 13 09:00 BST (UK) »
No CHARIDGE at all in Black Bourton PR's
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,