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Irish Marriage Certificate
« on: Thursday 13 March 14 07:37 GMT (UK) »
Good morning all,

I am looking at a marriage ceritificate of a marriage in Limerick Registrar's office that took place 10th Aug 1920 between Florence Marion Flindell and William Black - he is stationed in the Ordnance Barracks, Limerick and is in the Royal Enginneers, his rank 2 M S.

My main query is that the marriage took place according to 7 and 8 Vic., Cap. 81 and 26 Vic., Cap. 27 and I have no idea what this means.

In spite of 24 years in the services I am also puzzled in respect of his rank (2 M S) - can only imagine something like Master Sgt, although the meaning of the 2 eludes me.

And advice would be very much appreciated.

best regards

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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 March 14 08:10 GMT (UK) »
Good morning again,

Out of curiosity, I looked for the marriage in the general index of marriages, and although I did not find the Limerick marriage, I found one between the couple in the Apr/May/June quarter on the index for England - Registration district Orsett in the County of Essex.

Does this mean they married twice? 

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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 March 14 10:51 GMT (UK) »
From a quick bit of googling it seems that the Vic and Cap business refers to the acts of parliament under which a building could be licenced for the solemnisation of marriages.

Regarding the 2 marriages my guess would be that they were married in Essex then needed a marriage certificate in order to live together in the army's married quarters. Maybe they'd lost or mislaid the original cert and it was easier to marry again in Ireland than to chase up a copy.

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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 March 14 12:57 GMT (UK) »
7 and 8 Vic., Cap. 81  refers to the 81st Act passed during the session that started in the 7th year of the reign of Queen Victoria, and ended in the 8th year of her reign.

It's the Marriages (Ireland) Act 1844.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1936/en/act/pub/0047/print.html


26 Vic., Cap. 27 refers to the Marriage Law (Ireland) Amendment Act 1863
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1863/en/act/pub/0027/print.html




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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 March 14 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Maybe they'd lost or mislaid the original cert and it was easier to marry again in Ireland than to chase up a copy.
Frank

They probably did not have the commanding officers permission for the first marriage.

Marriages of Soldiers: It should be known that by the Queen's/King's regulations for the army the previous consent of the commanding officer is requisite to the marriage of a soldier, otherwise his wife cannot be recognised as such by the rules of military discipline. Although the commanding officer is not authorized by law to forbid the banns or other preliminary proceedings, he may take other steps to check an improvident marriage.
From "The Marriage Law of England"

Another post on the same subject http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=619030.0

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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 March 14 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Many many thanks to the three respondents to my query - I am much enlightened.  and I will read the
Acts concerned.   

Thanks again,

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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 March 14 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Oops!   . . . . . . . I see what you mean about reading the Acts . . . . . . . . . complex or what!   Ha ha

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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 September 15 23:18 BST (UK) »
Kincaid,
Does this marriage certificate list a birthdate or parent's names for this William Black? I am trying to track down my great-grandmother's brother of the same name and was looking at the Essex marriage as a possibility as I know he did live in that area at one time. Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Irish Marriage Certificate
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 September 15 13:48 BST (UK) »
The father of the groom in the 1920 marriage was William Black, a bricklayer (deceased).